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Old 08-26-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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different type of slavery.

In any event, your opinion of slavery is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Assuming, of course, you don't think morality is absolute and objective.
Vizio, your ignoring the fact that Jews had TWO types of slaves, one that your referencing, and the other you can beat the hell out of, just as Jesus taught.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Vizio, your ignoring the fact that Jews had TWO types of slaves, one that your referencing, and the other you can beat the hell out of, just as Jesus taught.
Blinkered vision is a fundamentalist requirement.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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Vizio, your ignoring the fact that Jews had TWO types of slaves, one that your referencing, and the other you can beat the hell out of, just as Jesus taught.
And your point is what? Is that wrong? Why do you believe it is wrong?
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Vizio, your ignoring the fact that Jews had TWO types of slaves, one that your referencing, and the other you can beat the hell out of, just as Jesus taught.
Where in the bible did Jesus teach this ? Do tell
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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different type of slavery.

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Doesn't matter. The human being being beaten is still suffering. Pain and anguish doesn't stop and say, "Wait. What type of slave are you? Are you being beaten because God says it's OK?"

Following Cupper's morale code would stop that pain and anguish from being inflicted.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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Doesn't matter. The human being being beaten is still suffering. Pain and anguish doesn't stop and say, "Wait. What type of slave are you? Are you being beaten because God says it's OK?"

Following Cupper's morale code would stop that pain and anguish from being inflicted.
OK....so if pain and anguish is stopped. Does that mean that it's more moral to not to do that? If so...why? Can you explain using something other than your own personal opinion?
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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OK....so if pain and anguish is stopped.
Uh, oh. The goal posts just got moved. Someone tell Cupper that Viz has to punt because his kicking leg is giving him trouble.

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Old 08-26-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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Uh, oh. The goal posts just got moved. Someone tell Cupper that Viz has to punt and his kicking leg is giving him trouble.
Nope...still the same old goal. I'm asking you and everyone else on this thread to explain to me how their morality is somehow better than anyone else's. I've not seen anyone do it.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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I'm asking you and everyone else on this thread to explain to me how their morality is somehow better than anyone else's.
Simple. Cupper's Morality keeps innocent people from suffering.
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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And your point is what? Is that wrong? Why do you believe it is wrong?
Vizio, do you truly believe there is something in your faith which substantiates the beating of another human being, even if they didn't know they did something wrong. That IS what Jesus taught.

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Where in the bible did Jesus teach this ? Do tell
In Luke:*

12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

*Bible revelations you did not know about brought to you by Atheists Inc.â„¢

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OK....so if pain and anguish is stopped. Does that mean that it's more moral to not to do that? If so...why? Can you explain using something other than your own personal opinion?
As I've said many times before, my construct of morality covers questions of doubt like you have:
  • If it feels good, do it.
  • If it harms you or someone else, don't

Jesus had no qualms about harming someone else, when he gave instructions as to how to beat slaves. You can not deny that.


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Uh, oh. The goal posts just got moved. Someone tell Cupper that Viz has to punt and his kicking leg is giving him trouble.
You notice he does that whenever reality strikes him and he is backed into a corner.
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