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I am still waiting for you to answer my question - like you said you would more than once after reminding you and you disappearing only to come back and repeat the same error.
If no mans opinion is more valid than any other how is your subjective opinion about 'god morality' is more valid? You can't even understand your own trap
Vizio somehow thinks that his subjective opinion that an objective morality exists in his particular bible god is somehow objective. CLUELESS!
When Obama was elected in 2008, membership in hate groups and militias - most of them Christian - increased by 700%.
And that was just because a black man became president.
If the right kind of Christian apologist, someone charismatic enough, were to ever whip up Christians into a frenzy, I have no doubt - no doubt at all - that there would be those committed to terrorism and murder. I'm not saying all Christians would do that. In fact, I would envision a lot of sectarian violence between Christian factions in the same way Shi'as and Sunnis hate each other.
Will it happen today? No, probably not. Tomorrow? Doubtful. But 50 years from now? How about 100?
What happens when the economic situation in America becomes desperate - and it will - and people begin turning to fundamentalist religion to assuage their fears? I'm not at all convinced that we won't have some serious trouble.
Violence, fear, terror are the antithesis of the fruits of the Spirit:
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Galatians 5:22-23
Anyone who exhibits a desire for violence and hate would be Christian in name only. In 50-100 years, I see Christianity being outlawed in America, Christians hunted down and persecuted. Certainly not your scenario.
It could happen. Same as if a future a-theistic junta manages to grab some power and calls for all atheists of the world to unite and overthrow theological hegemony once and for all...with fire and the sword. The pressures can exist on all belief systems. If you don't, I'd suggest you are fooling yourself.
Sure, it could happen. Then again, everyone in America could convert to Islam or perhaps there will be a civil war between those who embrace alien visitation and those who do not. I bring those unlikely scenarios to the fore to make the point that it is HIGHLY unlikely that there would ever be an atheist junta.
There is far and away more historical precedent for extremist religious regimes than there is for extremist atheist regimes. And the so-called "atheist" regimes are not necessarily built on atheism the way religious regimes are built upon religious dogma.
As Arequipa pointed out, atheists do not want to live under someone's junta any more than we want to live under someone's god. But given how hated atheism is in America (thanks to the never-ending propaganda spewed forth from evangelists and TV preachers), an atheist junta would last all of 10 minutes before some Christian militia group - or a coalition of the same - destroys it.
Atheists do not have the organizational infrastructure or the financial means to take over a country - even if atheists had the desire. I don't think I've ever met an atheist who thought we should revolt against the government and supplant ourselves in power. Yet I seem to meet Christians who want to overthrow the government almost on a daily basis.
I am still waiting for you to answer my question - like you said you would more than once after reminding you and you disappearing only to come back and repeat the same error.
If no mans opinion is more valid than any other how is your subjective opinion that 'god morality' is more valid? You can't even understand your own trap
Vizio somehow thinks that his subjective opinion that an objective morality exists in his particular bible god is somehow objective. CLUELESS!
Do you not comprehend that the maker has authority over his creation?
So you agree the Nazis were right, since they agreed that they were?
Vizio, you're just stonewalling this conversation with semantics. All of these points have been addressed, but aside from a few weak refutations (that have been rebutted), you're just ignoring what people say and falling back on the ad nauseam fallacy.
Which is why I found it hysterical that you tried to brush me aside with an accusation that I'm just repeating myself. In that sense, you're just shadow-boxing with yourself.
Vizio, you're just stonewalling this conversation with semantics. All of these points have been addressed, but aside from a few weak refutations (that have been rebutted), you're just ignoring what people say and falling back on the ad nauseum fallacy.
Which is why I found it hysterical that you tried to brush me aside with an accusation that I'm just repeating myself. In that sense, you're just shadow-boxing with yourself.
I have yet to see you present any kind or reasonable argument that your personal opinion regarding morality is grounds for condemning anyone else.
Anyone who exhibits a desire for violence and hate would be Christian in name only. In 50-100 years, I see Christianity being outlawed in America, Christians hunted down and persecuted. Certainly not your scenario.
Hahahahaha, LOL!
ROFL!
Oh make it stop. Please make it stop!!
It hurts! I can't breathe. LOL!
09-02-2014, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Vizio
Do you not comprehend that the maker has authority over his creation?
Do you not comprehend that the above is just your subjective opinion and according to your own words is no more valid than anyone else's and as such is worthless in judging. You know according to your own posts. Ergo, your whole series of posts in this thread is worthless and no more valid than anyone else's.
How this fact how flown over your head consistently being shown to you is I must conclude an effect of your misguided approach to morality - which stems from that ancient tribal book you think comes from on high.
I have yet to see you present any kind or reasonable argument that your personal opinion regarding morality is grounds for condemning anyone else.
Argumentum ad nauseam is the logical fallacy that something becomes true if it is repeated often enough. The overuse of an ad nauseam argument that can be easily shown to be false leads to the PRATT - the "point refuted a thousand times."
A point refuted a thousand times, commonly abbreviated as PRATT, refers to a point or argument that has literally been refuted so many times that it is not worth bothering with.
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