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Old 09-10-2014, 11:53 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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If, after all this time, you can't realize that I'm not arguing for my interpretation of a set of commands...I don't know what else I can say. I've adequately demonstrated that the OP has a pointless argument. Without being able to actually say what is moral and what isn't, the point of this thread is moot.
So why don't you attempt to tell us what YOUR version of what is moral is. And why you think it is applicable?
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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So why don't you attempt to tell us what YOUR version of what is moral is. And why you think it is applicable?
Clearly, since there is no form of morality among mankind that is objective and absolute, we must look to a higher source. Do you agree?
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Old 09-10-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Clearly, since there is no form of morality among mankind that is objective and absolute, we must look to a higher source. Do you agree?
Nope.

You and jimmie and maxx are the only Three Amigos I've seen who believe an absolute morality must exist in order to condemn your god, or anything else.

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Old 09-10-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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Clearly, since there is no form of morality among mankind that is objective and absolute, we must look to a higher source. Do you agree?
That is true for the very CONCEPT of morality, Vizio . . . NOT the content. Without God establishing a purpose for our existence . . . the CONCEPT of morality is moot. Your attempt to pretend that the contradictory written morality reflected in the Bible is God's absolute objective morality is irrational. It is not remotely absolute or standard. It is capricious because it is tied to what men believe God said or supposedly did at various times in our history . . . and they are NOT compatible.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:11 PM
 
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That is true for the very CONCEPT of morality, Vizio . . . NOT the content. Without God establishing a purpose for our existence . . . the CONCEPT of morality is moot. Your attempt to pretend that the contradictory written morality reflected in the Bible is God's absolute objective morality is irrational.
Have I ever done that? Do you think I'm suggesting we have to follow the Mosaic Law to be moral?
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Have I ever done that? Do you think I'm suggesting we have to follow the Mosaic Law to be moral?
You haven't suggested anything in the way of being moral.

You just ask questions of others and offer nothing. You got no bullets in your god gun.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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You haven't suggested anything in the way of being moral.

You just ask questions of others and offer nothing. You got no bullets in your god gun.
That's because first and foremost I wanted to demonstrate the futility of anyone claiming to be able to judge IF God is moral....while they cannot even tell me if Hitler, or any other man is moral.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:30 PM
 
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Have I ever done that? Do you think I'm suggesting we have to follow the Mosaic Law to be moral?
Considering the fact that when you are asked specific questions your SOP is to ask a question (the handy "out" for not having to give an answer - which you did, once again, in this very post)... I'd say no one can say WHAT you are suggesting.

Except for your constantly stating you are a pastor in a little country church (which implies being a Christian) ... it's often difficult to determine just what you believe. About morals or anything else.

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Old 09-10-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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That's because first and foremost I wanted to demonstrate the futility of anyone claiming to be able to judge IF God is moral....while they cannot even tell me if Hitler, or any other man is moral.
Wrong.

The Abrahamic God is a monster who makes Hitler appear like a choir boy by comparison.

See? It's easy.

That you don't accept my, and others' ability to assess morality or its lack, is your problem, not ours.
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Old 09-10-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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That is true for the very CONCEPT of morality, Vizio . . . NOT the content. Without God establishing a purpose for our existence . . . the CONCEPT of morality is moot. Your attempt to pretend that the contradictory written morality reflected in the Bible is God's absolute objective morality is irrational. It is not remotely absolute or standard. It is capricious because it is tied to what men believe God said or supposedly did at various times in our history . . . and they are NOT compatible.
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Have I ever done that? Do you think I'm suggesting we have to follow the Mosaic Law to be moral?
When you allege that EVERYTHING in the Bible is God's truth . . . you are . . . because the Mosaic Law is in the Bible. If it was moral then it must still be moral now. That is what absolute objective morality MEANS! That is why your morality is NOT objective or absolute.

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