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To be at harmony with yourself and your surroundings and everyone that comes within it.
This is what spiritual maturity means to me.
True, but it is a rare thing to be harmony with yourself and your surroundings at the same time. I mean the environment is ever changing and so is the individual himself.
Most often I can only be at peace with myself, but this does not prohibit the fact that while I am at peace with myself, I can be at a disharmony with my environment (mostly other people).
Originally Posted by b. frank I agree that being true to yourself could be considered spiritual mature, but why should I care about what others think of me if I only try to be me?
I mean how can you say that person A is more spiritually mature than person B when person A and B are totally different? And why should I feel the need to compare myself to another anywayz?
I don't think I read the whole thread, but I don't remember any mention of a comparison or competition among people to be the Most Spiritually Mature.
Part of my perception of spiritual maturity is that other people have no bearing on one's own spiritual maturity. In other words, the only person that one strives to be "better" than is oneself. Person A and B should each focus on their own spiritual maturity.
I don't think I read the whole thread, but I don't remember any mention of a comparison or competition among people to be the Most Spiritually Mature.
I don't view life as a competition; the problem is that people who see life as a competition have a problem with the way how I live my life. You can’t compete with someone who doesn't view life as a competition ( since there can only be 1 Tricky D) and somehow that always makes them feel to be the loser which only frustrates them further.
Originally Posted by ptsum True, but it is a rare thing to be harmony with yourself and your surroundings at the same time. I mean the environment is ever changing and so is the individual himself.
Most often I can only be at peace with myself, but this does not prohibit the fact that while I am at peace with myself, I can be at a disharmony with my environment (mostly other people).
then you too must learn to change with it,that's what beingin at harmony is, learning to change with your environment,and being at peace with it, to accept it for what it is, our surroundings are always changing and we must learn to change with it,this is a learning process and this is how we grow.
then you too must learn to change with it,that's what beingin at harmony is, learning to change with your environment,and being at peace with it, to accept it for what it is, our surroundings are always changing and we must learn to change with,this is a learning process and this is how we grow.
If being in balance with my surroundings means losing the freedom of being me, I don't mind not being in balance with my surroundings. I will not pretend to be someone I am not, or be someone I am not, just to appease my environment.
Originally Posted by ptsum If being in balance with my surroundings means losing the freedom of being me, I don't mind not being in balance with my surroundings. I will not pretend to be someone I am not, or be someone I am not, just to appease my environment.
If you are happy and at peace with the way you are now,than so be it.
May peace and happiness be with you.
in addition to peace and harmony, there is also for me an aspect of acceptance, accepting that people are just where they need to be, doing just what they need to be doing, it is not up to me to fix or change anyone or anything. Also an acceptance of myself.
i don't see spiritual maturity as a competition with anyone else, just a yardstick for me to measure my own growth and progress. the only person I can change is myself, my thoughts, my actions, my beliefs. My incentive for spiritual maturity within me is for one thing not have to keep going through the same crap over and over, this lifetime or future lifetimes, and also that deep sense of peace and joy and happiness
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True, but it is a rare thing to be harmony with yourself and your surroundings at the same time. I mean the environment is ever changing and so is the individual himself.
And why should I feel the need to compare myself to another anywayz?
since there can only be 1 Tricky D) and somehow that always makes them feel to be the loser which only frustrates them further.
If being in balance with my surroundings means losing the freedom of being me, I don't mind not being in balance with my surroundings. 
I will not pretend to be someone I am not, or be someone I am not, just to appease my environment.
