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Old 09-10-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I gather you believe either that your god existed forever or that he came into being from 'nothing'.
I happen to believe that energy, neutrons, protons,electrons other galaxies and other such things have always existed. Those things were the 'source'.
OK, was it ID or an "accident" that life formed?
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Old 09-10-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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Being superstitious won't get us to Heaven, faith will.
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Old 09-10-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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OK, was it ID or an "accident" that life formed?
It wasn't an accident...it was an occurrence, more propbably, a series of them.
Depending on your viewpoint it could be called serendipity
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Old 09-10-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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OK, was it ID or an "accident" that life formed?
You should perhaps investigate on life that exists around a black smoker. It may surprise you. And yes, this is an answer.
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:25 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Being superstitious won't get us to Heaven, faith will.
So the popular supersition claims.
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It wasn't an accident...it was an occurrence, more propbably, a series of them.
Depending on your viewpoint it could be called serendipity
Doesn't that imply a source?
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:01 PM
 
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Doesn't that imply a source?
Of course.

Higgs Boson.

Bang. It happened.
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Doesn't that imply a source?
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Of course.

Higgs Boson.

Bang. It happened.
The God Particle?
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:05 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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The God Particle?
It's been called that in the hope that apologists will finally see the light and accept science and reason.
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Old 09-11-2014, 01:33 AM
 
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Faith is a matter of the heart involving a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ. Superstitions do not involve the heart or Jesus.
So you are essentially saying that if you have a group of nonsense you can separate them into two groups of nonsense distinguished merely my which ones your are emotionally invested in.

I guess this could be a workable definition. Friday 13th fear.... superstitious unsubstantiated nonsense....... thinking there is a god.... emotional attachment to the idea..... faith based unsubstantiated nonsense....

I get it. Not my definition, but yours does appear somewhat workable.
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