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Well, let's look at this from a Biblical literalist perspective - since there is no end of "lulz" to be had showing how ridiculous it all is.
One could safely argue that the many denominations and disagreements have absolutely nothing to do with the devil - and even if it did, it's quite obvious God wanted the devil mucking about with our understanding of God. Unless, of course, you're going to admit that things within God's creation are happening without God's knowledge or consent (which makes having him around rather pointless).
Just because God allows something to happen doesnt' mean He approves or likes it. God just can't catch a break with skeptics. If He comes down hard on sin and destroys man wiping out the sin, now he is a cruel merciless immoral God! But He is patient and withholding of his judgement, well now He is an immoral god for allowing evil and sin to happen every day. God allows the devil to influence man because man through sinful nature invites the influence.
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No, no ... the many denominations and disagreements come from God's inept and incompetent handling of the Tower of Babel incident. Once again, given the infinite number of problem-solving options afforded to an all-powerful Supreme Being, God elected to confuse everyone's languages.
Your position assumes quite a lot. It assumes that you have full knowledge of all the circumstances involving the event. It assumes that the ancient world operated under all the same physical realities that our world has today. Then you can apply your modern day problem solutions to an ancient event!
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Why would God do such an idiotic thing? Was he actually concerned that these primitives would be successful in building a tower to Heaven? Was God completely unaware of a basic architectural/engineering principle that structures made exclusively of stone are very limited in their possible height? (After around 400' or so, the weight of the building threatens to crush and pulverize the foundation stones at ground level). Was Heaven actually thought to be in the literal sky in those days thus necessitating the tower be destroyed? Why did God then do nothing about the Great Pyramid, the tallest structure in the world until the Washington Monument was completed in 1884?
I'm sure God's judgement here had little to do with actual structure itself. Whenever God judges, we can see that his judgement is based on the heart of man. He had just cleansed the earth of wicked people with the Flood. Now He sees man already uniting again in wickness and arrogance. Following the path of Satan who wants God's power and control.
Confusing the languages and spreading out man served to prevent all mankind from uniting and thumbing their nose at the Creator who gave them everything.
Just because God allows something to happen doesnt' mean He approves or likes it. God just can't catch a break with skeptics. If He comes down hard on sin and destroys man wiping out the sin, now he is a cruel merciless immoral God! But He is patient and withholding of his judgement, well now He is an immoral god for allowing evil and sin to happen every day. God allows the devil to influence man because man through sinful nature invites the influence.
Your position assumes quite a lot. It assumes that you have full knowledge of all the circumstances involving the event. It assumes that the ancient world operated under all the same physical realities that our world has today. Then you can apply your modern day problem solutions to an ancient event!
I'm sure God's judgement here had little to do with actual structure itself. Whenever God judges, we can see that his judgement is based on the heart of man. He had just cleansed the earth of wicked people with the Flood. Now He sees man already uniting again in wickness and arrogance. Following the path of Satan who wants God's power and control.
Confusing the languages and spreading out man served to prevent all mankind from uniting and thumbing their nose at the Creator who gave them everything.
Why didn't he just smite them again with his mighty sword and eliminate the troublemakers, like he did so many times before? Or why did he not just make the previous evil humans speak in different languages instead of sending the flood, thereby killing all of the innocent animals as well?
Why didn't he just smite them again with his mighty sword and eliminate the troublemakers, like he did so many times before? Or why did he not just make the previous evil humans speak in different languages instead of sending the flood, thereby killing all of the innocent animals as well?
Oh, you know the answer to that one -- God works in mysterious ways!
He's not interested in easy, sensible solutions to problems. If he can't just drown 'em, or send a plague, or some ravenous bears - he'll just do something mysterious as all get-out.
Your position assumes quite a lot. It assumes that you have full knowledge of all the circumstances involving the event. It assumes that the ancient world operated under all the same physical realities that our world has today. Then you can apply your modern day problem solutions to an ancient event!
By that reasoning, we are ill advised to apply information about ancient events to the modern world, too.
Oh, you know the answer to that one -- God works in mysterious ways!
He's not interested in easy, sensible solutions to problems. If he can't just drown 'em, or send a plague, or some ravenous bears - he'll just do something mysterious as all get-out.
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Why the strict requirements? Considering that most of the "peers" are probably not Creationists, I wouldn't expect them to fairly examine any evidence that contradicts evolution. They would just shelve it.
I see. You can't answer it. Therefore your contention is null, void, extraneous, and means nothing.
All evidence? One only has to look at the La Brea tar pits and see that the finds do not match up with evolutionary theory.
Adumbrate this evidence for us and exactly how it does not match with the theory.
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