Pantheism: Nature IS God

[cupper3]

Originally Posted by Vizio

Profound. Yes--I'm aware of what red-light shift is. Could you elaborate? What's your point?

Great. Then now you have answered your own question about time.

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by Vizio

If nature is not eternal and it had a beginning, then it cannot be God. It cannot bring itself into existence.


At some point there had to be an uncaused cause. It's simple logic.

Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

[Arach Angle]

There was either "something" or "nothing". Nothing freaks me out more than "nothing" so I am a "something" guy. Neither of these stances need an god. Also just because they don't need one doesn't mean there isn't a god. It's just that this Omni-god doesn't seem to match what the universe is teaching us.

[Arach Angle]

Originally Posted by cupper3

Thanks for the comment. I wish more people would start thinking this way, rather then going by rote regurgitation of thoughts put down by a wandering tribe of goat herders.

I love it too. I don't totaly agree with it, but it is still great stuff.