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They go straight back to the loving Father in heaven.
Catholic compassion at it's best. I've always liked Catholic teachings about compassion. God has it and it's extended to the small child gone too soon. Such a wonderful concept that too many fail to understand. I think it's one of the stellar parts of Catholic belief.
p.s. I absolutely agree.
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Catholic compassion at it's best. I've always liked Catholic teachings about compassion. God has it and it's extended to the small child gone too soon. Such a wonderful concept that too many fail to understand. I think it's one of the stellar parts of Catholic belief.
p.s. I absolutely agree.
Really? Official RCC teaching is that baptism is required for entrance to heaven. The idea of limbo, while not an official doctrine, did develop as a means of answering this question. They theorized that while an unbaptized baby can't get into heaven, he/she shouldn't go to hell, either...so they're in "limbo".
Apologetics, technically, is the discipline of defending a position, usually religious, in a systematic manner. We usually use it here for people defending the concept of faith, and of the Christian god. Perry rejects this label, perhaps based on a misunderstanding of the term "apologist" having something to do with apologies.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are using it in the more limited sense of defending a position about the utter depravity of man (taught in the Bible) vs it not applying to very young and newly minted persons who have not yet reached some undefined "age of accountability" (not taught in the Bible).
Perry has explicitly endorsed the age of accountability, but says he is not an apologist for it. Technically he is correct, in that he has done nothing to explain, justify or defend his belief in the age of accountability. Because he cannot. It is a particularly clear example of a theological concept (utter depravity) running up against a strong, widely held moral conviction (babies are innocent and should not be tortured) and the resulting cognitive dissonance being dealt with by simply turning a human opinion into a doctrine. God "could not have meant" that to apply to innocent wittle babies, of course, so if God had thought to mention this exception, this "age of accountability" concept is what he "would have" said.
Since fundamentalists like Perry like to claim all of their dogmas and doctrines are derived from black and white indisputable pronouncements in scripture, I can understand his reluctance to defend a position that has no basis in scripture.
Strike three, your out, you did worse at the plate than she did.: I'll give you credit you got my proper name right.
Really? Official RCC teaching is that baptism is required for entrance to heaven. The idea of limbo, while not an official doctrine, did develop as a means of answering this question. They theorized that while an unbaptized baby can't get into heaven, he/she shouldn't go to hell, either...so they're in "limbo".
You need an update. And today is your lucky day! Limbo was buried as a concept in 2007 by the Church's International Theological Commission. With the blessings of Pope Benedict, a theologian, who had expressed doubts about Limbo for many years. They recognized that it was really just a bunch of hooey.
p.s. Many Catholics pray to God asking for a (more) compassionate heart. This world could use more compassion.
p.p.s. LovesMountains is a wonderful example of a compassionate Catholic. Her posts are always full of good stuff.
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You need an update. And today is your lucky day! Limbo was buried as a concept in 2007 by the Church's International Theological Commission. With the blessings of Pope Benedict, a theologian, who had expressed doubts about Limbo for many years. They recognized that it was really just a bunch of hooey.
p.s. Many Catholics pray to God asking for a (more) compassionate heart. I think that's quite wonderful. This world could use more compassion.
As I said...it was not an official doctrine. I recognize that. My point though, is that it was something that developed because on one hand, the RCC wanted to be merciful, but on the other hand, they held to the idea that one cannot go to heaven without baptism.
You need an update. And today is your lucky day! Limbo was buried as a concept in 2007 by the Church's International Theological Commission. With the blessings of Pope Benedict, a theologian, who had expressed doubts about Limbo for many years. They recognized that it was really just a bunch of hooey.
p.s. Many Catholics pray to God asking for a (more) compassionate heart. This world could use more compassion.
p.p.s. LovesMountains is a wonderful example of a compassionate Catholic. Her posts are always full of good stuff.
Yay for compassion.
But - does God change his entry criteria according to the prevailing winds of the Roman Catholic teachings? Sounds unlikely.
1. We are born in sin.
2. No one goes to Heaven except though me - Jesus Christ.
3. Babies don't know Jesus from Adam.
1 + 2 + 3 imply that babies go to Hell. Since there is no Limbo. Along with Jews, Hindus and most Asians.
Yay for compassion.
But - does God change his entry criteria according to the prevailing winds of the Roman Catholic teachings? Sounds unlikely.
1. We are born in sin.
2. No one goes to Heaven except though me - Jesus Christ.
3. Babies don't know Jesus from Adam.
1 + 2 + 3 imply that babies go to Hell. Since there is no Limbo. Along with Jews, Hindus and most Asians.
This is really what is pondered among some believers?
Yep. Dumb, ain't it?
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