why were the Dead Sea Scrolls kept secret for so many years? (Jehovah's Witnesses, prophecy)
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the work you do does seem possible to accomplish generally, in an unbiased manner or, at least, should only be argued against on the basis of what you state, not why you might have concluded them.
Getting the dogmatic hobbyists here to address what I state instead of what they assume are my motivations and biases would be like getting them to produce evidence instead of just assumption. In other words, it would be impossible.
Lots of people are morons, not relevant, he is one of several I cited, and they are not all morons.
I notice you are more interested in killing the messenger anyway, rather than to address the accusations made. A common defense for people who make claims they cannot back up.
Lots of people are morons, not relevant, he is one of several I cited, and they are not all morons.
As far as I can tell none of them have credentials in the field of New Testament scholarship. While that doesn't mean all *sans Mr. Bushby* don't know what they are talking about, it does mean that they are not professionals. It also is relevant because it questions how much weight someone can give your opinions. I rarely take someone serious when they use known pseudo authors as their sources.
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I notice you are more interested in killing the messenger anyway, rather than to address the accusations made. A common defense for people who make claims they cannot back up.
Says the guy who tells anyone who disagrees with him that they need to read the "professionals". Your views are based off of your personal opinion and not fact. There is nothing to address here. If you don't believe me then there are several authors I suggest you read.
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I question who is the moron here.
Likely the person who thinks random people writing opinion pieces on the internet are "professionals" in the field.
I'm sorry I brought it up.
It really is giving ammunition to your detractors and even if they are blanks, will be an unnecessary annoyance when shot at you.
While I do agree that unconscious influences can affect someone's opinion when dealing only with opinions, the work you do does seem possible to accomplish generally, in an unbiased manner or, at least, should only be argued against on the basis of what you state, not why you might have concluded them.
Then we would have to see what an "unbiased Muslim scholar on Constantine" has to say about Constantine's slight yet present influence on canonization. Money and Government are a big influence.
Getting the dogmatic hobbyists here to address what I state instead of what they assume are my motivations and biases would be like getting them to produce evidence instead of just assumption. In other words, it would be impossible.
I don't know about you, but I agree that we find no Confession from Constantine that he chose the books, we get no confession from the bishops that they were influenced by Constantine's support, etc. But I still think applying psychology of today to so little ago evolutionarily, is allowable. But yes, the common idea that Constantine "chose" the books is most likely very very wrong, considering the available evidence.
As far as I can tell none of them have credentials in the field of New Testament scholarship. While that doesn't mean all *sans Mr. Bushby* don't know what they are talking about, it does mean that they are not professionals. It also is relevant because it questions how much weight someone can give your opinions. I rarely take someone serious when they use known pseudo authors as their sources.
Says the guy who tells anyone who disagrees with him that they need to read the "professionals". Your views are based off of your personal opinion and not fact. There is nothing to address here. If you don't believe me then there are several authors I suggest you read.
Likely the person who thinks random people writing opinion pieces on the internet are "professionals" in the field.
Btw, this info was available long before the internet, you are making excuses again.
And use some common sense, if there was anything that confirms Christianity, the way you are trying to put it, it would have been public a long, long time ago.
And you are hiding behind the same' kill the messenger mentality". a person makes a statement, and you avoid the statement, by trying to defame him, regardless if the statement is true or not.
It is obvious you know the statements he made on this particular topic are true, or you would attack the statements, not the person who made them.
And a person cannot get information from a Christian author, they will tell you what they are conditioned to say.
The only answers can come from 2 sides facing off, but the christians will not do this in places they know they cannot prove, or would be embarrassing to them.
Then we would have to see what an "unbiased Muslim scholar on Constantine" has to say about Constantine's slight yet present influence on canonization. Money and Government are a big influence.
LOLOL
Muslim scholar on Constantine,
And where do you propose getting one of those.
Islam is plagerized from Christianity, Judism, Zoestranism, and Greek medical.
There is no Constantine in their history, in fact their history did not even start until the 8th century.
Btw, this info was available long before the internet, you are making excuses again.
And use some common sense, if there was anything that confirms Christianity, the way you are trying to put it, it would have been public a long, long time ago.
And you are hiding behind the same' kill the messenger mentality". a person makes a statement, and you avoid the statement, by trying to defame him, regardless if the statement is true or not.
It is obvious you know the statements he made on this particular topic are true, or you would attack the statements, not the person who made them.
There is nothing to attack because he is offering a personal opinion based on no facts. His sources are either quote minded in which he only gives a small portion of the saying to try to further his point, or ridiculous sayings that come from non historical work *such as quoting God's book of Eskra." The reality is the development of canon took CENTURIES to come up with. Constantine was a patron of the religion but he wasn't as invested in the creation of canon as a lot of people seem to assume.Even if he was they weren't going to alter their views just because he said so. Early Christians had no issue dying for their beliefs, so it's a very ignorant view to think that they would suddenly do a 180 to appease the Roman Emperor.
And although though there was no official list until some time after he died we do have lists of known works. Some of these authors went out of their way to attack gnostic views well before Constaintine drew breath. Do you know why they did this? Because there is absolutely no connection between them and the historical Jesus. They were concerned with persevering valid traditions that went back to the Apostles and the time of Christ. Have you even read some of those books? Weird doesn't even begin to describe almost all of them.
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Originally Posted by Jim_a49
And a person cannot get information from a Christian author, they will tell you what they are conditioned to say.
The only answers can come from 2 sides facing off, but the christians will not do this in places they know they cannot prove, or would be embarrassing to them.
Islam is plagerized from Christianity, Judism, Zoestranism, and Greek medical.
There is no Constantine in their history, in fact their history did not even start until the 8th century.
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