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Unread 01-10-2008, 08:39 AM
 
Location: New England
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I'm also basing my vote on:


That he is against gun control
Gun control only stops those who follow the law. Criminals don't care about the law. Hello?

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That he supports creationism in school
Alongside the theory of evolution? What's wrong with that? Both should be taught or both should not be taught. Both are theories.

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That in 1992 he advocated isolating AIDS patients from the rest of the population
What wrong with a quarantine to save lives?

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For making comments comparing his weight loss to the experience at a concentration camp
I don't know anything about this so I can't comment.

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For asking "Don't mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
Well...do they? He was asked repeatedly about "Jesus" in the debates as if he was the only Christian to run for office so why the double standard?

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That he falsely stated Pakistan has more illegal immigrants in the US than Mexico
Does ANYONE know for sure? Probably not.

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I'm sure there are others though..
No doubt!
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Unread 01-10-2008, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Florida (SW)
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I think a true Christian would look at health care; the economy and standard of living; the environment, justice and civil rights, relationships with our neighbors, peace. A true christian would consider the beatitudes when reviewing a party's and a candidate's platform and what the effect of their election would have.

Abortion is such a dead end issue. So many who cling to this as the most important issue have absolutely no regard for the plight of poor children living in poverty and in fatherless homes. So many of these single issue voters have no regard for the culture of life when it comes to foriegn policy, war, genocide, programs for the elderly; stewardship and enviornmental issues.

I don't think there is a Republican candidate that a true Christian could vote for. I ask you.....what would Jesus do?
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Unread 01-10-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: New England
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I think a true Christian would look at health care; the economy and standard of living; the environment, justice and civil rights, relationships with our neighbors, peace. A true christian would consider the beatitudes when reviewing a party's and a candidate's platform and what the effect of their election would have.

Abortion is such a dead end issue. So many who cling to this as the most important issue have absolutely no regard for the plight of poor children living in poverty and in fatherless homes. So many of these single issue voters have no regard for the culture of life when it comes to foriegn policy, war, genocide, programs for the elderly.

I don't think there is a Republican candidate that a true Christian could vote for. I ask you.....what would Jesus do?
Wait...let me guess.

You are

1. Liberal
2. Gay
3. Not a born again Christian.

Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong because I know I'm not.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Plano, Texas
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I think a true Christian would look at health care; the economy and standard of living; the environment, justice and civil rights, relationships with our neighbors, peace. A true christian would consider the beatitudes when reviewing a party's and a candidate's platform and what the effect of their election would have.

Abortion is such a dead end issue. So many who cling to this as the most important issue have absolutely no regard for the plight of poor children living in poverty and in fatherless homes. So many of these single issue voters have no regard for the culture of life when it comes to foriegn policy, war, genocide, programs for the elderly; stewardship and enviornmental issues.

I don't think there is a Republican candidate that a true Christian could vote for. I ask you.....what would Jesus do?
Well, as a proverbial "one-issue" voter (the issue being abortion) let me just say that I DO think other things are important. Very important. But from MY perspective, (and I certainly am aware not all agree) abortion= taking the life of an innocent child. I don't think ANY other political issue trumps that.

I do think it's too bad that other important issues have to take a backseat so to speak, to this. But I just think it's THAT important. It is my opinion that God cannot fully bless a nation that legally condones killing the unborn. So this ultimately impacts all the other issues IMO.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Wait...let me guess.

You are

1. Liberal
2. Gay
3. Not a born again Christian.

Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong because I know I'm not.
Wow. I have never even considered using my "ignore" function on a poster before this post!
Bye bye, JViello. Enjoy your judging.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:04 AM
 
Location: New England
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Wow. I have never even considered using my "ignore" function on a poster before this post!
Bye bye, JViello. Enjoy your judging.
If I didn't know the man or read his words - I would be "judging" in an unfair way.

These are all things he admitted in other threads. So how was I "judging". I was just stating facts and making it known for "clarity" sake.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:04 AM
 
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Gun control only stops those who follow the law. Criminals don't care about the law. Hello?
I made no mention about breaking laws or criminals. You obviously believe gun control will somehow leave you defenseless. That is an opinion that I won't even try to reason with you on because it will be a lost cause. I'm pro gun control in that every gun should be licensed to an owner (similar to owning a car).

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Alongside the theory of evolution? What's wrong with that? Both should be taught or both should not be taught. Both are theories.
So your belief in God is a theory?

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What wrong with a quarantine to save lives?
Unfortunately by 1992 it was widely known how AIDS was spread which means he was either ignorant.. (scary for someone in office) or a bigot.. you pick.

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Well...do they? He was asked repeatedly about "Jesus" in the debates as if he was the only Christian to run for office so why the double standard?
Whether they do or not (which they don't) a simple research on the subject could have been done either by Mr. Huckabee or his staff. Obviously Mr. Huckabee chooses to make accusations without any data to back it up with the hopes of confusing people into thinking Mormons are evil. Slimy at best.

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Does ANYONE know for sure? Probably not
INS and border patrol do.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:17 AM
 
Location: New England
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I knew you would be back.

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I made no mention about breaking laws or criminals. You obviously believe gun control will somehow leave you defenseless. That is an opinion that I won't even try to reason with you on because it will be a lost cause. I'm pro gun control in that every gun should be licensed to an owner (similar to owning a car).
There are already laws stating they they must be licensed. Maybe we can pass a law to make it against the law to not follow the law.

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So your belief in God is a theory?
As much as non belief in God. Yes.

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Unfortunately by 1992 it was widely known how AIDS was spread which means he was either ignorant.. (scary for someone in office) or a bigot.. you pick.
He said:
"We now know that the virus that causes AIDS is spread differently, with a lower level of contact than with TB," Huckabee said. "But looking back almost 20 years, my concern was the uncertain risk to the general population — if we got it wrong, many people would die needlessly. My concern was safety first, political correctness last."

Sounds okay to me. To each his own I guess.

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Whether they do or not (which they don't) a simple research on the subject could have been done either by Mr. Huckabee or his staff.
Actually many do. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Going by your logic and as you said about "David" all Romney had to do was say "no".

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Obviously Mr. Huckabee chooses to make accusations without any data to back it up with the hopes of confusing people into thinking Mormons are evil. Slimy at best.
Well that's YOUR conjecture. Lets be clear.


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NS and border patrol do.
No they don't! LOL No one knows...it's all an estimate. Again you take an "unknown" and try to make it a fact.

Anyhow, I gotta run to a Dr appointment. Have fun.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Florida (SW)
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If I didn't know the man or read his words - I would be "judging" in an unfair way.

These are all things he admitted in other threads. So how was I "judging". I was just stating facts and making it known for "clarity" sake.
It's not too hard to figure out what you are all about!
I really don't need you to be my publicist--I attend to that very well on my own. Thank You very much.
One might worry that you would run out of stones to cast, but you probably pick up and carry plenty "just in case".

I neither care nor have any interest in the particular nature of your sexual expression; nor why you have such an interest in mine; how could it possibly have anything to do with your political opinions....it doesn't!

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Unread 01-10-2008, 10:53 AM
 
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Wait...let me guess.

You are

1. Liberal
2. Gay
3. Not a born again Christian.

Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong because I know I'm not.
What on earth does that have to do with anything? I'm two of those things, and the third isn't anything I have a say in.
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