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Correct, but I was thinking more along the lines of why we should listen to anything any Christian has to say when they themselves may not even be what they profess (and just don't know it yet).
This is just the point I'm discussing on the Christianity thread 'What I believe' where the validity of faith is under discussion where someone as basic as Paul is declared (on the basis I may say of a poster's personal convictions that the facts are otherwise) to be mistaken.
This is why I think Theist apologists cannot ever admit they are wrong except over minor things that don't really matter. But admitting they have got it wrong damages this apparent belief that they are inspired with the truth. It seems that the *** (good grief? Is that rude word?) game ought to have been up centuries ago but how adroit they are at going away and coming back a bit later with a changed view which they seem to pretend is what they had all along. As indeed the churches all seem to pretend as they gradually morph along behind public opinion.
It is pretty clear that faith in ..well the faith must be maintained and any hint that it could be mistaken by quoting someone who had just the same views, experiences and beliefs but later came to see that they were not believable - it has to be claimed that these could not have been of the same true Quality as those that must be regarded as true beyond all doubt and question. They could really have been For real as much as those are still buying -in.
“What a dirtbag. Sorry, without Christ your ‘good deeds’ are worth *****.”
“Calling evil good and good evil… where have we heard that before, I wonder?”
“I was wondering if he is dating a male or female.”
“Seems as though he is sewing the devils fruits to me.”
“Smells like someone is having a mid-life crisis.”
“He is not smart enough to be able to see the difference between religion and belief.”
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light….. Isaiah 5:20.”
“Being good without boundaries. The serpent couldn’t have said it any better.”
“No God, no concience… No God, no peace… Now come out of the closet f___ot.”
This is just the point I'm discussing on the Christianity thread 'What I believe' where the validity of faith is under discussion where someone as basic as Paul is declared (on the basis I may say of a poster's personal convictions that the facts are otherwise) to be mistaken.
This is why I think Theist apologists cannot ever admit they are wrong except over minor things that don't really matter. But admitting they have got it wrong damages this apparent belief that they are inspired with the truth. It seems that the *** (good grief? Is that rude word?) game ought to have been up centuries ago but how adroit they are at going away and coming back a bit later with a changed view which they seem to pretend is what they had all along. As indeed the churches all seem to pretend as they gradually morph along behind public opinion.
It is pretty clear that faith in ..well the faith must be maintained and any hint that it could be mistaken by quoting someone who had just the same views, experiences and beliefs but later came to see that they were not believable - it has to be claimed that these could not have been of the same true Quality as those that must be regarded as true beyond all doubt and question. They could really have been For real as much as those are still buying -in.
The followers of Christ are his church and in so his building. You will know a follower by their fruits. But no one is 100% in God till he is remade. That is why it is called a walk in this life. And all the members in Christ work together to lift or correct each other to maintain the Church. So what if someone changes their mind and lies about the fact? Call them out for what it is they hold onto. PRIDE. But correct with kind words. Not spite full in manners. The conversation is to remain fruit full. For those that have strike will fight back. So what? Do you accord the strife or ignore it. Well sometimes you just got to pull out the iron rod. The solid truth.
34Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, 35but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him.…
Acts 10;34
34Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, 35but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him.…
Acts 10;34
Really? I would think that his family would suffer more if he continued to go through the motions of being a believer when he clearly does not. If his wife has left him because he is no longer a believer, that's a reflection of her character, not his.
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It's sad that he felt his experiment was worth the disintegration of his family. It's awful to hear children being put through this. He is selfish and lost. Kat Kerr was just preaching on the fact that as believers, we cannot dabble in darkness and not expect for it to overtake us. This is the prime example of that.
No...not really. I just believe the Bible. It says that if a person walks away from the faith, then they were never in it to begin with.
Well, of course the Bible would say that. Think about it. That's how they keep people in the fold.
I don't know how to say this nicely, but every post I've ever read from you is "The Bible," "The Bible," "The Bible," "The Bible," "The Bible." I understand how important it is to you, but maybe you could set it down for a second and apply some critical thought to what it says.
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Statistics beg to differ. I know you want to be right but facts trump your opinion. A majority of the world is Catholic and if you knew anything about the Catholic religion, you'd know they do believe in Christ the savior. I would educate myself if I were you.
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