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Old 12-28-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: New York City
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his verdict is in. "God does not exist."

"At the start of 2014, former Seventh-Day Adventist pastor Ryan Bell made an unusual New Year's resolution: to live for one year without God. This, reflecting his own loss of faith. He kept a blog documenting his journey and has a documentary crew following him."

After Year Of Atheism, Former Pastor: 'I Don't Think God Exists' : NPR
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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Good for him.

His most cogent statement is, "certainty is overrated". And his most practical takeaway is that he's still basically the same person with the same burden to reduce human suffering -- it is now just more reality-based. And he's right also that atheism is an awkward and ill-fitting label for real world interactions, and shouldn't be a focus in most settings.

All of this is totally consistent with my own departure from theism.
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Old 12-28-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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Blimey. But I gather he was already deep in doubt. It's not like a firm believer resolved to live like an atheist for a year.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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Blimey. But I gather he was already deep in doubt. It's not like a firm believer resolved to live like an atheist for a year.
I think he really just is a good marketer who packaged the standard transition away from doubt taboos in an especially creative and engaging way. You're right, the very ability to experiment with unbelief in any way demands as a prerequisite, that you already have substantial doubts and that theistic belief-structures have already failed you. If you weren't pretty sure of yourself you would be afraid that you'd be guilty of undermining other's faith. If you're so unattached to faith already, unbelief is almost a fait accompli. This is something any theist intuitively knows, and it's exactly why they have so much fear and loathing for unbelief (and unbelievers).
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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his verdict is in. "God does not exist."

"At the start of 2014, former Seventh-Day Adventist pastor Ryan Bell made an unusual New Year's resolution: to live for one year without God. This, reflecting his own loss of faith. He kept a blog documenting his journey and has a documentary crew following him."

After Year Of Atheism, Former Pastor: 'I Don't Think God Exists' : NPR
Should it surprise us that a guy walks away from a legalistic religion and he finds more happiness without trying to please God?

He didn't know Christ...and he still doesn't. Nothing has changed.
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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Should it surprise us that a guy walks away from a legalistic religion and he finds more happiness without trying to please God?

He didn't know Christ...and he still doesn't. Nothing has changed.
I guess he just didn't have the advantage of "just knowing" as you do. Nor does it seem that he has the advantage of not being judged by those who never knew him. BTW, I don't believe he nor you are "Scotsmen".
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Old 12-28-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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I guess he just didn't have the advantage of "just knowing" as you do. Nor does it seem that he has the advantage of not being judged by those who never knew him. BTW, I don't believe he nor you are "Scotsmen".
My point is that he apparently was religious, but he didn't know Christ. There is a difference.

It's not about religion, or trying to please God by doing things. Many people get tired of trying to please God by their actions, or working hard to do what the church requires of them, and when they eventually have enough they walk away.

As for your argument about the true Scotsman fallacy? I don't care. The Bible says that the true Christian is one that is chosen and predestined by God and he will NOT walk away. If this guy walked away, he wasn't a Christian. Don't like it? Don't care.
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Old 12-28-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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As for your argument about the true Scotsman fallacy? I don't care. The Bible says that the true Christian is one that is chosen and predestined by God and he will NOT walk away. If this guy walked away, he wasn't a Christian. Don't like it? Don't care.

Well, it seems that God doesn't want as much to do with the current generation, as many youths are turning away from the path of blind certainty in Christ. He also doesn't want much to do with the majority of the world's population who do not believe in Christ as their saviour.
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Old 12-28-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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Is the documentary crew following him around because of a hopeful or pending book deal?
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Old 12-28-2014, 10:51 AM
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More and more people every day are realizing how difficult it is to continue believing in the bible God.

And what a relief it is when one stops.
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