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Old 11-16-2016, 07:51 AM
 
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God does not allow human evil to happen...Human beings allow it. Look at the recent slaughter of Coptic Christians and the burning of their churches....AMERICA once a Christian empire turned a blind eye to the mini-holocaust of Christians....As they did back in the early Nazi era regarding Jews...they through their prejudice and hate allowed the Nazis to murder civilian Jews.

God rains on the wicked as well as the good...and God show mercy to evil people as well as the good. Stop pointing at GOD and look in the mirror.
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Old 11-16-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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How would you as an ordinary person help others if you lived then and saw it happening around you? Why did it bring out the worst in people with so many people allowing it to happen?
I'm not the god the creator who Has a plan that allowed the holocaust.

If you were god, would you have stopped the holocaust or sit back and watch so ya know who to torture after they die?
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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If you lived then and saw it happening how would you try to help others?
If I were an omnimax deity I would have prevented it.

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Turn a blind eye? Say not my problem? Say there's nothing I can do about it?
If I were an omnimax deity I would have prevented it.

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That seems to be what you are saying.
As usual, you see things that are not there.

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Every ordinary person does have a way to help prevent heinous acts.
Not so. Please explain how you would have stood up to Hitler as a normal person and then explain how you would have done it as an omnimax deity.

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The people who did nothing allowed it to happen....you appear to be supporting that.
Once again, you see things that are not there. You make them up to appease the non-actions of your chosen deity. You compare the options open to mere mortals with the options open to omnimax deities. There is no comparison.

Please give examples of the options open to an omnimax deity compared to those open to an individual mortal.
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Can you please explain in what way this is analogous to God preventing the Holocaust?
Exactly. It's the old theist trick of comparing humans with omniax deities...as if there is no difference!
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The big picture is that God allows all the bad to be happened here such that evil as the root cause will be destroyed openly once and for all, in order to secure a sin-free heaven.
Why doesn't he just destroy evil??
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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How would you as an ordinary person help others if you lived then and saw it happening around you? Why did it bring out the worst in people with so many people allowing it to happen?
Your continued asking of this question is irrelevant. There are many restrictions that may prevent humans doing things to alleviate suffering. Omnimax deities are not encumbered by such restrictions.
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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God does not allow human evil to happen...Human beings allow it. Look at the recent slaughter of Coptic Christians and the burning of their churches....AMERICA once a Christian empire turned a blind eye to the mini-holocaust of Christians....As they did back in the early Nazi era regarding Jews...they through their prejudice and hate allowed the Nazis to murder civilian Jews.

God rains on the wicked as well as the good...and God show mercy to evil people as well as the good. Stop pointing at GOD and look in the mirror.
I am always amazed at how theists will blame ANYBODY but the one that planed for it all to happen and has complete control over every situation. So let me ask you something. If you saw a dog owner making no effort to stop his dog crapping on the footpath, would you blame the dog or the owner? Please attempt an answer.
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Why doesn't he just destroy evil??
God is asking you "why will you die?"
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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God is asking you "why will you die?"
Pfffft!
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong
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Why doesn't he just destroy evil??
How? Unless you show your bleep up, no Law can apply to destroy you.

Last edited by mensaguy; 11-18-2016 at 05:13 AM.. Reason: language
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