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Old 11-19-2016, 03:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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I just watched a DVD that interviewed 5 Hungarian Jewish survivors of the death camps. I actually couldn't finish watching it, because it was so pathetic how they were abused and murdered. I then wondered "if there is a God, how could he allow this to happen?". Our own country has its own horrors as well. How we're all of these allowed to happen by God?
God not only "allows" mass murder and genocide to occur, He orders it up personally.

Numbers 31

[15] And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
[16] Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
[17] Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
[18] But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Joshua 6

[20] So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
[21] And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Ezekiel 9

[4] And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
[5] And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
[6] Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
[7] And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.


Children and babies, hacked to death with swords. God doesn't just "allow" these things to happen. He intends for them to happen.
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Old 11-19-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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God not only "allows" mass murder and genocide to occur, He orders it up personally.

Numbers 31

[15] And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
[16] Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
[17] Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
[18] But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Joshua 6

[20] So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
[21] And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Ezekiel 9

[4] And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
[5] And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
[6] Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
[7] And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.


Children and babies, hacked to death with swords. God doesn't just "allow" these things to happen. He intends for them to happen.
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Thank you.
Because many confuse "God" with "Jesus," while it's not one and the same thing. Jesus is only PART of God's spirit, by definition his BEST part.
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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cant' have a good parts only
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Old 11-20-2016, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Free Will. Life Lesson.

Even if you knew why, it wouldnt change that it happened.
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Old 11-20-2016, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Free Will.
What about the 'free-will' of those that didn't want to suffer?
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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What about the 'free-will' of those that didn't want to suffer?



The bible mentions that any can experience--time and unforeseen circumstances.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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The bible mentions that any can experience--time and unforeseen circumstances.
Geez thank goodness we have the bible to tell us the obvious.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:44 PM
 
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What about the 'free-will' of those that didn't want to suffer?
Some have free will, some - not so much.
Or better to say that some have more free will ( and obviously choices) than other by definition.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Some have free will, some - not so much.
Or better to say that some have more free will ( and obviously choices) than other by definition.
LOL! All are equal...but some are more equal than others.
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Old 11-22-2016, 03:19 AM
 
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How thick does someone have to be to NOT understand that WE have DOMINION on earth, PERIOD!!!
Ah yes so people who do not see it your way are "thick". Same ole from you then huh? Insults trump points every time.

But actually there is nothing "thick" about it because we do not have such dominion. We are - for example - at the complete mercy of the micro-bacterial world.

1) We are alive at their behest - as a significant chunk of your biomass is not human but bacteria working in symbiosis with you to keep you alive and you would simply keep over and die without them.

2) The right strain of infection could effectively - if not entirely - wipe us out entirely at less than a whim.

3) Were an Extinction Level Event to occur on this planet at any time it would likely wipe us out entirely and the bacterial world would continue entirely regardless - and entirely oblivious to our departure.

So you think we have "dominion"? Pull the one with bells on - if anyone can be said to have dominion - and I do not think it can justifiably be said but _if_ - then it is the single cellular world not us.
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