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Old 01-29-2015, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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So I can assume you concede on this topic? Since you have nothing else to say but jokes?
He is joking but the joke has a serious point. All religious claims are assertions without evidence. There is literally no difference between a divine hamster and Jehovah. You will doubtless talk about the hamster being the new kid on the block (no 2,000 year history) and having only one adherent. But how does the age of a belief or the popularity of it have the slightest bearing on its basis in reality? Not a whit.

Theists take great umbrage when we talk about invisible friends, sky wizards, etc., because they have a lot of ego invested in the reality of their invisible friends and sky wizards and a lot of camaraderie in the group reinforcement they experience via their friendly local church. And they have special names for these things that sound portentous rather than ridiculous. God sounds ever so much better than "invisible friend" for instance. None of this makes it true.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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they are the events that shall process. before it happens, i tell u. so you will not say my idol tells me or my image declared them. i am the lord. i will not give my praises to the idols. neithber my glories away. i am the lord,
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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they are the events that shall process. before it happens, i tell u. so you will not say my idol tells me or my image declared them. i am the lord. i will not give my praises to the idols. neithber my glories away. i am the lord,
This remark belongs on a "Does Prophecy prove anything?" thread. We are not talking about prophecy, but about god's coyness.
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Old 01-29-2015, 08:36 PM
 
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so you really want to see God? bear in mind the wage of sin is death.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:40 PM
 
Location: USA
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Have you ever considered that they might be with God now?
In other words, the invisible essence of the children is now in an invisible place with your invisible friends. The original question was "Why does God never show himself?" Do you see how your response actually conforms to my response to the OP, which is that the reason God never shows Himself is because no such Being exists, and never did. Because make believe has no actual effect on the physical world,
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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He is joking but the joke has a serious point. All religious claims are assertions without evidence. There is literally no difference between a divine hamster and Jehovah. You will doubtless talk about the hamster being the new kid on the block (no 2,000 year history) and having only one adherent. But how does the age of a belief or the popularity of it have the slightest bearing on its basis in reality? Not a whit.

Theists take great umbrage when we talk about invisible friends, sky wizards, etc., because they have a lot of ego invested in the reality of their invisible friends and sky wizards and a lot of camaraderie in the group reinforcement they experience via their friendly local church. And they have special names for these things that sound portentous rather than ridiculous. God sounds ever so much better than "invisible friend" for instance. None of this makes it true.
As I pointed out there is evidence that supports some claims, events, and people in the Bible.

There is absolutely zero evidence supporting the notion of a Cosmic Hamster.

Apples to Oranges.

Atheists and Theists alike both are believing in something unknown or proven.

Theists - A Creator

Atheists - Something from nothing
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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i was discussing some prophecies on the last page, if you want to flip back to see that page.

also why are you so concer of the childern? is it not good i do to my own stuff? will thine eyes be evil because i am good

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Old 01-30-2015, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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As I pointed out there is evidence that supports some claims, events, and people in the Bible.

There is absolutely zero evidence supporting the notion of a Cosmic Hamster.

Apples to Oranges.

Atheists and Theists alike both are believing in something unknown or proven.

Theists - A Creator

Atheists - Something from nothing

The too often repeated, misunderstood comparison Christians keep hanging their hats on.
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Old 01-30-2015, 04:07 AM
 
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The too often repeated, misunderstood comparison Christians keep hanging their hats on.
Can you refute it?

ie

Show me proof that something comes from nothing?

and by proof I do not mean "theories"
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Old 01-30-2015, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Can you refute it?

ie

Show me proof that something comes from nothing?

and by proof I do not mean "theories"

The mistake you're making is that the theory is that something comes from "nothing", not in explaining how it did.
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