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They ate from the tree of life in the middle of the garden
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Originally Posted by granpa
And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the middle of the garden.
And the woman said unto the serpent, `Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we do eat,
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, Elohim has said,
"Ye shall eat of it not; ye shall die"
And the serpent said unto the woman,
"Ye shall eat of it; not ye shall die"
For God does know that in the day you eat thereof your eyes shall be opened,
and you shall (develop technology making you) be like Elohim.
Knowing good and evil, the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat.
They ate from it because it was forbidden
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Originally Posted by granpa
Knowing good and evil = all or nothing thinking
all or nothing thinking leads to craving things simply because they are forbidden.
craving things simply because they are forbidden leads to very bad decisions.
bad decisions get people killed.
after Adam was resurrected God warned him not to partake of the knowledge of good and evil again.
They ate from the tree of life in the middle of the garden
Oh, is that your main point? "Tree of life" not "tree of knowledge"?
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They ate from it because it was forbidden
Here I simply have to disagree. Eve ate because the fruit seemed pleasant to eat; she did not eat it just to be cantankerous, so far as I can see. I don't eat cake to be naughty (even if I perceive myself as being naughty when I eat it). I eat it because it because I expect it to taste yummy.
Oh...I see we posted at the same time. Now I gotta look back to get this:
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Originally Posted by granpa
Knowing good and evil = all or nothing thinking
all or nothing thinking leads to craving things simply because they are forbidden.
I don't see the logic in either of these sentences:
Why do you think that knowing good and evil = all or nothing thinking? (Personally, I think in terms of a spectrum.)
Why do you think that all or nothing thinking leads to craving forbidden things?
of course, it does change the meaning of the phrase. I'm not a Bible scholar, but I assume this has been a debate amongst scholars.
Why would it be a matter of debate? The changed meaning makes no sense either logically or within the context of the story. How could she "know good from evil" before eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? The whole point remains the loss of innocence or what happens when you become aware of the conflict between what you want and what is good for a social group as a whole.
it never says she ate from the tree knowing good and evil. It says she ate from the tree in the middle of the garden that was pleasant to the eyes and good for food.
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And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the middle of the garden.
And the woman said unto the serpent, `Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we do eat,
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, Elohim has said,
"Ye shall eat of it not; ye shall die"
And the serpent said unto the woman,
"Ye shall eat of it; not ye shall die"
For God does know that in the day you eat thereof your eyes shall be opened,
and you shall (develop technology making you) be like Elohim.
Knowing good and evil, the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat.
it never says she ate from the tree knowing good and evil. It says she ate from the tree in the middle of the garden that was pleasant to the eyes and good for food.
Genesis 2:"…16The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."
That was after Adam was resurrected which was long after he was kicked out of the garden
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