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You should live here in Oklahoma, this state is full of them! We passed a law banning Sharia Law, but the fundies are now trying to pass there own versions of Sharia law. They are wanting their version of religion dictating their beliefs through law.
Sounds like all the more reason to stay on the 40 and keep on going. Though I am partial to the buffalo burgers (and the gift shop) at the Cherokee Trading Post in Calumet.
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BTW, OP consider this. Most of the people who are encouraging you to change what you are doing, aren't even believers. You can see how the enemy works. Keep doing what you are doing, the enemy doesn't like that, that's why the demons are getting raged up over your decision.
Is that you Franklin Graham? I will remind you again. You do not get to define my faith. I see how the enemy works. He is small and mean, and unable to open his arms wide to embrace others. It is easy to spot the enemy. Good heavens. No wonder God did not use sperm to create Jesus.
Op, you struggle with loving God and being gay. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
God wants you to have a full life before deciding if celibacy is the best choice for you, especially since you are struggling. Going into the ministry should not have baggage.
Giving your life to God should not be because you had no choice, because you are gay. It should be because you want to give your life to God. Your sexuality should never be in the decision.
then go start your own gay Christian church. Paul may care, Jesus doesn't. I don't want ya around my bars but Jesus don't care if yaz drink with him. so open you a bar while you are at it.
I already been to gay Christian churches yet they are not really Christian. What is missing is the geunine repentance of all your sins before Jesus Christ. In addition there is a rejection of much of the bible and the Bible is God word, and the Bible does not state that.
Timothy 3:16All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
In addition as a Christian we are to keep the Lords commandments:
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. Rev. 22:14-15
I don't mean this in an insulting way, OP, but I think you're dealing with a great amount of cognitive dissonance. I sincerely hope you find whatever it is you're looking for.
But here's one thing I've never understood about devout Bible believers. Do you ever ask WHY the Bible tells you do to something? Or is it just enough that the Bible says "do it" or "don't do it," without ever questioning it? If the Bible told you to stick your right hand in a bowl of whipped cream and wear a shoe on your head every Thursday afternoon, would you just automatically do it?
I guess this was why I never made a good religious person. I don't follow orders well. If you want me to do something, you have to give me a good reason to do it, and it has to make sense.
The point being, why does the Bible tell you not to engage in homosexual behavior? Was it something specific to the time and culture? Was it mere bigotry? Or does the context not matter? I guess it's a bonus if you personally find homosexuality icky and your Bible condemns it. But is that reason enough to draw so much attention to it, especially while ignoring so many other biblical behavioral edicts?
I guess I just don't get it. It seems like living a Christ-like life of kindness, love, and charity would be enough in itself. Following his example should be more important than following an arbitrary set of rules.
Life is already hard enough. Why make it even harder on yourself?
I don't mean this in an insulting way, OP, but I think you're dealing with a great amount of cognitive dissonance. I sincerely hope you find whatever it is you're looking for.
But here's one thing I've never understood about devout Bible believers. Do you ever ask WHY the Bible tells you do to something? Or is it just enough that the Bible says "do it" or "don't do it," without ever questioning it? If the Bible told you to stick your right hand in a bowl of whipped cream and wear a shoe on your head every Thursday afternoon, would you just automatically do it?
I guess this was why I never made a good religious person. I don't follow orders well. If you want me to do something, you have to give me a good reason to do it, and it has to make sense.
The point being, why does the Bible tell you not to engage in homosexual behavior? Was it something specific to the time and culture? Was it mere bigotry? Or does the context not matter? I guess it's a bonus if you personally find homosexuality icky and your Bible condemns it. But is that reason enough to draw so much attention to it, especially while ignoring so many other biblical behavioral edicts?
I guess I just don't get it. It seems like living a Christ-like life of kindness, love, and charity would be enough in itself. Following his example should be more important than following an arbitrary set of rules.
Life is already hard enough. Why make it even harder on yourself?
Well there is no way I would be where I am without the holy spirit. Prior to me being born again Christian at least 90% of the friends I had were gay men. I used to party a lot with some of them, and that involved going to gay nightclubs, getting drunk, and having sex. I used to be a porn addict as well. I did not see nothing really wrong with it.
Yet in my life I felt it was unfulfilled. Normally I then saw that the only way to truly make my life complete was be really intimate with a another man. Yet even when I did that feeling did not last, and when that finished I eventually craved for more, and experience after experience it only really satisfied me for short time. Plus there were other reasons I was not happy with the gay lifestyle. Yes there was good, but there were ugly and not so nice and it was superficial and at times pretentious. An example is so many gays would judge much more on your looks rather that your personality. There were other reasons as well.
With those reasons and some others I not listed here I choose to go to church. I learned that I learned that Jesus Christ all along is striving to reach out to me, even my life as a sinner. He wanted me to be his personal saviour and best friend.
Even so I still continued with my ways of living the gay lifestyle.
Yet I realised that Jesus came to save humanity and he died on the cross for all of our sins. It says in John 3:16"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
In addition I learned that God is not angry at me but loves me. Yes he hates the sin, yet he gave us Jesus to save us.
All I had to do is to ask the Lord Jesus to forgive all my sins and for him to be my personal saviour and best friend.
After all that I had new desires. I was given the gift of the holy spirit. With that my desires to know more about Jesus rose dramatically. With that I did not have the strong desires to go around and have sex with men, go to gay nigh clubs, look at porn. I eventually left the old life.
I now find real joy getting to know more and more about Jesus, and knowing more of his word which is the Bible. I now have far more inner peace now than in my old ways of the homosexual lifestyle. I would not have that desires without the holy spirit.
Of course I would not be liked by many due to my choice and it is written in scripture:
John 15:18-19"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. 19"If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you
Perhaps the problem is more that you 'hate' yourself. That's sad.
Perhaps the problem is more that you 'hate' yourself. That's sad.
I do not hate myself. God made me and everyone in his own image:
Genesis 1:26, "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
God knew me and you before we were born:
Jeremiah 1:5 ESV / 128 helpful votes
Well there is no way I would be where I am without the holy spirit. Prior to me being born again Christian at least 90% of the friends I had were gay men. I used to party a lot with some of them, and that involved going to gay nightclubs, getting drunk, and having sex. I used to be a porn addict as well. I did not see nothing really wrong with it.
Yet in my life I felt it was unfulfilled. Normally I then saw that the only way to truly make my life complete was be really intimate with a another man. Yet even when I did that feeling did not last, and when that finished I eventually craved for more, and experience after experience it only really satisfied me for short time. Plus there were other reasons I was not happy with the gay lifestyle. Yes there was good, but there were ugly and not so nice and it was superficial and at times pretentious. An example is so many gays would judge much more on your looks rather that your personality. There were other reasons as well.
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Obviously it didn't occur to you that it was the way your life was being lived by such shallow,temporary and superficial relationships, not to mention drinking too much, etc was what was so unsatisfying.
The same could be said for any heterosexual person.
Changing the "lifestyle", as you put it, is understandable but that could be done without giving up who and what you are and the chance for the kind of sincere and loving (and sexual) relationship that other gay people have found.
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We passed a law banning Sharia Law, but the fundies are now trying to pass there own versions of Sharia law. They are wanting their version of religion dictating their beliefs through law.
