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So the only point of this thread was to see if it was possible for every single person has the exactly identical definition of one world? And there is no explanation why the OP wants us to state the obvious.
Harm has different meanings but is a real concept.
God has different meanings but is only a concept.
Why? Ask them. Their reasoning has nothing to do with a universal acceptance of something being wrong. The bottom line is it is wrong. We both agree it is wrong.
I have used a well known and well accepted logical principal of universal agreement, called a priori logic.
If we have universal acceptance of a thing, then it does not need to be tested. We simply agree.
Aristotle was amazing.
There are things we can agree on as universal constants.
Sexual assault is wrong.
Pedophilia is wrong.
We can agree on the logic of math.
This is your opinion. It's not factual since everyone doesn't scribe to what's moral.
3rd time if it is wrong then why do people still rape?
So the only point of this thread was to see if it was possible for every single person has the exactly identical definition of one world? And there is no explanation why the OP wants us to state the obvious.
Harm has different meanings but is a real concept.
God has different meanings but is only a concept.
You and cupper3 can't stay on topic because you both know you have no real argument. I'm not suggesting that you believe in God.
Harm cannot define morality. That is this thread in a nutshell.
This is your opinion. It's not factual since everyone doesn't scribe to what's moral.
3rd time if it is wrong then why do people still rape?
You should brush up on logical principles, reasoning and fallacy. I have explained in detail those principals. These principals of logic are universal. What happened to logic because mathematicians and attorneys use all of the time. Now you do not believe in logic?
The law supports the wrong. Rapist have all sorts of reasons. She asked for it. She was wearing a tight skirt. She was a nun and her habit turned me on. I hate my mother. She was not conscious so I thought it was okay. She is my kid, I can do what I want( child was four). He liked it( child was three)
I have heard all sorts of excuses to explain why it was not wrong. It means nothing.
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You and cupper3 can't stay on topic because you both know you have no real argument. I'm not suggesting that you believe in God.
Harm cannot define morality. That is this thread in a nutshell.
What???
Harm does not define morality? I yes that is why you don't seem to have a problem that your Bible can't speak out against rape and endorses slavery, even though people are obviously harmed.
You and cupper3 can't stay on topic because you both know you have no real argument. I'm not suggesting that you believe in God.
Harm cannot define morality. That is this thread in a nutshell.
Fine now that I know what you are after I can respond but I still think you are playing a word game. Not doing harm to others is one of the ways we as a society decide on morality. Morality comes from within and from without and not wanting to be harmed or to harm others are parts of this. Not universal of course especially considering the existence of sociopaths and pysopaths. There will be at least one person who does not agree with a definition of harm so no it is not universal. What do you gain by getting answers to this obvious question?
Harm does not define morality? I yes that is why you don't seem to have a problem that your Bible can't speak out against rape and endorses slavery, even though people are obviously harmed.
Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. Because there is nothing else to argue....
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Originally Posted by badlander
Fine now that I know what you are after I can respond but I still think you are playing a word game. Not doing harm to others is one of the ways we as a society decide on morality. Morality comes from within and from without and not wanting to be harmed or to harm others are parts of this. Not universal of course especially considering the existence of sociopaths and pysopaths. There will be at least one person who does not agree with a definition of harm so no it is not universal. What do you gain by getting answers to this obvious question?
Are you not reading? Again, you can't use harming someone as the premise to determine what is moral or not.
This is your opinion. It's not factual since everyone doesn't scribe to what's moral.
3rd time if it is wrong then why do people still rape?
People still murder so the Bible or I should say your Bible doesn't count, or do you give yourself special rules?
Some people have the need for power over some one else. If we did not get our morality from outside the Bible we would not think of rape as immoral. There are people who have a lesser degree of morality, there are ones who have been conditioned to not think rape as immoral and some who do not realize they are raping. There are more reasons I would guess but I do not know what.
This has gotten totally silly. If we got our morality from the Bible slavery and some kinds of rape would be legal.
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now you are being silly.. 
