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Old 04-02-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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What makes you believe them to be correct?

Because I gather that multiple experts on language agreeing on the same subject, backed up by archaeology, is enough to say with a degree of accuracy that their opinion has a lot of merit.


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Again....because your favorite scholars told you so? Why did you believe them?
For the same reason that I could lecture you on Environmental remediation or network infrastructure; they have expertise in those fields.[/quote]


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And again...what makes the computer program correct?

Math
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:03 PM
 
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Because I gather that multiple experts on language agreeing on the same subject, backed up by archaeology, is enough to say with a degree of accuracy that their opinion has a lot of merit.
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For the same reason that I could lecture you on Environmental remediation or network infrastructure; they have expertise in those fields.
yet, you choose to not believe other scholars that disagree with the ones you choose to believe.

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I actually had a former career as a computer programmer. A computer program is only as good as the one programming it. The results that such a program might produce are also only as good as the one interpreting them.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:21 PM
 
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yet, you choose to not believe other scholars that disagree with the ones you choose to believe.

Pretty much none do. The only one that I know of that believes in it rather fully is Kenneth Kitchen. And while Dr. Kitchen is great on Egyptology his theories on Biblical history are simply rehashing of the same ones that William Albright championed seventy years ago. Theories that have long ago disproven. He also admits that the Biblical tale cannot be 100 percent accurate either, believing that the most likely date of the exodus being sometime 13th century for example.

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I actually had a former career as a computer programmer. A computer program is only as good as the one programming it. The results that such a program might produce are also only as good as the one interpreting them.

Yes, well this is not likely a program simply pulling "Hello world" out of an array either. I would dare say the people making something that advanced are quite skilled at what they do. Added to that the fact that peer reviewing would nitpick any flaws away.
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Old 04-03-2015, 05:41 AM
 
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Yes, well this is not likely a program simply pulling "Hello world" out of an array either. I would dare say the people making something that advanced are quite skilled at what they do. Added to that the fact that peer reviewing would nitpick any flaws away.
Readily awaiting the "GOD HATH NO PEERS" argument.
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Old 04-03-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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I actually had a former career as a computer programmer. A computer program is only as good as the one programming it. The results that such a program might produce are also only as good as the one interpreting them.
And a really good programmer has read Knuth and knows that algorithmic correctness can be mathematically (dis)proven, which I suspect is what HWC was referring to.

That said ... your are essentially correct that a program is only as good as its programmer (and the accuracy of the specifications and requirements). But I suspect you use something like Microsoft Word without the expectation that you must inspect all the source code first to make sure it is correct. And I have yet to have a single one of my customer's clients question whether the reports that they sell are backed by valid programming. Because they have good reason to believe that my client validates and tests my work first, plus they make business decisions all day every day using those reports and save a ton of money steering their decisions by the reports.

Similarly when scientists draw conclusions whether from computer program outputs or anything else it is subject to the scientific method via peer review as well as any resulting applied technology either working or not as well as congruence with the related work of others.

And I am 95% sure you already know this, which makes me wonder why you feel it necessary to call scientific work into question if it's something you don't personally understand and/or don't have the time to personally vet. That's not the way science works, or needs to work, or ought to work.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:01 AM
 
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He's either ignoring me, or furiously googling to see what he can come up with... He's chosen to answer other posts, but seeing he asked for some scholarly references of those who don't think that there was one author to the Pentateuch, and I provide a plethora to him, isn't it strange the silence?
Ke is NOT interested in scholars or facts. He is relying on faith. He probably believes Moses wrote the Pentateuch.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:35 AM
 
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Ke is NOT interested in scholars or facts. He is relying on faith. He probably believes Moses wrote the Pentateuch.
Yes, I gathered that one. Kind of like the one who kept using disproven data by Ron Wyatt a few months back.
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