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Old 04-01-2015, 08:39 AM
 
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There is a lot of reasons to doubt the Bible, and Christians have been able to backpedal of some of these without losing the central tenants of their faith. For example, I can see how someone could remain an honest Chrisitian after accepting the Genesis creation story as figurative.

But what happens when these stories appear to be copied from mythology that predates them? That's when the Bible really loses it's value.
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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There is a lot of reasons to doubt the Bible, and Christians have been able to backpedal of some of these without losing the central tenants of their faith. For example, I can see how someone could remain an honest Chrisitian after accepting the Genesis creation story as figurative.

But what happens when these stories appear to be copied from mythology that predates them? That's when the Bible really loses it's value.
No, it does not. In fact, the OT is the most well preserved ancient writting all along. Not a single dot had been changed, that was what intended originally.

The Bible should predate the mythologies that you mentioned. Firstly, the Biblical account of the cresend civilization existed with the Egyptian Civ. And it goes to Assyria, then Babylonian, then Persian. And the appearance of Persia with the Medes whom you referred to that outdated the OT. Medes civilization was in fact having their cities states in the time that the Persians took interests to invade. And the Persia Civ was after the Babylon, where held the Jewish second exiles. Ok, so do you see the point?

Given 500 years of room for the Medes matured from their gods to the magnificent temples of the Prince of Medes. And the Prince of Persia invaded and defiled the temples. And the Alexander was so pissed, and gayed all the way to India. Then the Rise of Rome and the Messiah came. The Bible still predates. Not to mention it gave the accounts of an garden of the Creator to the Tower of Babel. The oldest book that had been passed down. You could get a copy for €6.66 now though. Good deal. Can't afford a Bible? Go look at the skies then your surrounds. It's the same thing. You don't need to be literate then spend £6.66.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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There is a lot of reasons to doubt the Bible, and Christians have been able to backpedal of some of these without losing the central tenants of their faith. For example, I can see how someone could remain an honest Chrisitian after accepting the Genesis creation story as figurative.

But what happens when these stories appear to be copied from mythology that predates them? That's when the Bible really loses it's value.
Is there a myth that you believe predates the events of Genesis?
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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There is a lot of reasons to doubt the Bible, and Christians have been able to backpedal of some of these without losing the central tenants of their faith. For example, I can see how someone could remain an honest Chrisitian after accepting the Genesis creation story as figurative.

But what happens when these stories appear to be copied from mythology that predates them? That's when the Bible really loses it's value.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:59 AM
 
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No, it does not. In fact, the OT is the most well preserved ancient writting all along. Not a single dot had been changed, that was what intended originally.

The Bible should predate the mythologies that you mentioned. Firstly, the Biblical account of the cresend civilization existed with the Egyptian Civ. And it goes to Assyria, then Babylonian, then Persian. And the appearance of Persia with the Medes whom you referred to that outdated the OT. Medes civilization was in fact having their cities states in the time that the Persians took interests to invade. And the Persia Civ was after the Babylon, where held the Jewish second exiles. Ok, so do you see the point?

Given 500 years of room for the Medes matured from their gods to the magnificent temples of the Prince of Medes. And the Prince of Persia invaded and defiled the temples. And the Alexander was so pissed, and gayed all the way to India. Then the Rise of Rome and the Messiah came. The Bible still predates. Not to mention it gave the accounts of an garden of the Creator to the Tower of Babel. The oldest book that had been passed down. You could get a copy for €6.66 now though. Good deal. Can't afford a Bible? Go look at the skies then your surrounds. It's the same thing. You don't need to be literate then spend £6.66.
No, because you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Is there a myth that you believe predates the events of Genesis?
I think he means that the books of the bible are predated by other near eastern stories.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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I think he means that the books of the bible are predated by other near eastern stories.
They do not predate the events of Genesis, though.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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They do not predate the events of Genesis, though.
The predate the written account of it, yes. The Earliest fragments we have of Genesis don't appear until the 1st of 2nd century bce however. The earliest Sumerian creation myths appear well earlier.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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No, because you are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Ok, daughter: here is the deal (as followings)



Ur Civilization along with Egyptian Civilization

Excodus - Torah written including Genesis

The Assyrian Empire (the second human civilization)

The Babylon Empire (the third human civilization)
/
?
The Persian Empire (the fourth human civilization)
^
^along these times the Medes permanent temples
defiled by the Persians. Given 500 years from the
Greek mythologies to building the Athens.
Now plz comparing the timeline where the OT&Athens



Alexander the Great

the Rise of Rome and the sneaking in of the Messiah
Chinese chased Norms acrossed into Europe

the Rise of Ottoman and the fall of Roman Empires

the First WW

The Present Day Digital Era
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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Ok, daughter: here is the deal (as followings)



Ur Civilization along with Egyptian Civilization

Excodus - Torah written including Genesis

The Assyrian Empire (the second human civilization)

The Babylon Empire (the third human civilization)
/
?
The Persian Empire (the fourth human civilization)
^
^along these times the Medes permanent temples
defiled by the Persians. Given 500 years from the
Greek mythologies to building the Athens.
Now plz comparing the timeline where the OT&Athens



Alexander the Great

the Rise of Rome and the sneaking in of the Messiah
Chinese chased Norms acrossed into Europe

the Rise of Ottoman and the fall of Roman Empires

the First WW

The Present Day Digital Era

Yeah, that still makes no real sense. None of that proves the accuracy of the biblical accounts.
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