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Old 05-04-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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not only do you not care you ignore so much about them that shows a flood did not happen. A flood would not leave fossils sorted the way it did.
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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I'm sure he was dedicated to Yahweh just as his predecessors: Adam, and Abel and Seth and Enosh, and Cainan, and Maleleel, and Jared and Enoch and Methuselah
They weren't Jewish either.

We don't know what he was dedicated to. Given his time the sun is a good choice.
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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Interesting times Noah lived in. I wonder what religion he was, he wasn't Jewish. A sun worshiper maybe?

Islam
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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They weren't Jewish either.

We don't know what he was dedicated to. Given his time the sun is a good choice.
Correct, Noah couldn't have been Jewish because, as far as I know, there was no Judah in his day. Noah and forefathers in his direct lineage worshiped Yahweh, who later was the God of Israel.
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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Islam
Islam didn't come into being until 610 A.D. long after Noah died.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Correct, Noah couldn't have been Jewish because, as far as I know, there was no Judah in his day. Noah and forefathers in his direct lineage worshiped Yahweh, who later was the God of Israel.
Speculation on your part. The sun is as good as any other choice. And with speculation on my part, Noah could have been out plowing the fields, had a touch of heat exhaustion or mini stroke, went back to his adobe hut feeling kinda strange (bit of delusion perhaps?) etc etc, we will never know, nor will you.

But it makes as much sense as some of the stuff you've been posting. Even more so.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Did I say life was around only for the last 5,000 years?
So, let me get your views strait:

So...you don't know how long life was on Earth, possibly much longer than 5,000 years.

You don't know how long Earth has existed, possibly for much longer than 5,000 years.

You do believe there was a flood that wiped out everybody and all land animals that weren't on the Ark, correct?

You also hypothesize that before the flood Earth was considerably flatter than now, which would allow for floodwaters to cover all of Earth.

*How did diseases like smallpox and measles survive without hosts for so long after the flood?

Host-specific diseases which don't kill their host generally can't survive long, since the host's immune system eliminates them. (This doesn't apply to diseases such as HIV and malaria which can hide from the immune system.) For example, measles can't last for more than a few weeks in a community of less than 250,000 [Keeling & Grenfell, 1997] because it needs nonresistant hosts to infect. Since the human population aboard the ark was somewhat less than 250,000, measles and many other infectious diseases would have gone extinct during the Flood
Problems with a Global Flood, 2nd edition

*How did koalas survive? (They eat nothing but Eucalyptus leaves).

*I'm sure heard this on before, but how did the predators survive?
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:07 PM
 
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So, let me get your views strait:

So...you don't know how long life was on Earth, possibly much longer than 5,000 years.
The first eon of Genesis 1:1 to 1:2 could have been millions of years.
The second eon of Genesis 1:2 onward could have started between 5 to 10 thousand years ago.

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You don't know how long Earth has existed, possibly for much longer than 5,000 years.
Possibly millions of years.

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You do believe there was a flood that wiped out everybody and all land animals that weren't on the Ark, correct?
Yep.

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You also hypothesize that before the flood Earth was considerably flatter than now, which would allow for floodwaters to cover all of Earth.
By "flatter" I think you mean the mountains were not as high as they are now. If so, that is correct.

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*How did diseases like smallpox and measles survive without hosts for so long after the flood? Host-specific diseases which don't kill their host generally can't survive long, since the host's immune system eliminates them. (This doesn't apply to diseases such as HIV and malaria which can hide from the immune system.) For example, measles can't last for more than a few weeks in a community of less than 250,000 [Keeling & Grenfell, 1997] because it needs nonresistant hosts to infect. Since the human population aboard the ark was somewhat less than 250,000, measles and many other infectious diseases would have gone extinct during the Flood
Problems with a Global Flood, 2nd edition
I think they are now finding out that comets can carry diseases to earth.

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*How did koalas survive? (They eat nothing but Eucalyptus leaves).
They must have eaten Eucalyptus leaves on the ark.
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*I'm sure heard this on before, but how did the predators survive?
Maybe the same way they survive in zoos. Carnivores can live on kibble such as we feed our pets today (dogs, cats).
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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The first eon of Genesis 1:1 to 1:2 could have been millions of years.
The second eon of Genesis 1:2 onward could have started between 5 to 10 thousand years ago.

Possibly millions of years.

Yep.

By "flatter" I think you mean the mountains were not as high as they are now. If so, that is correct.

I think they are now finding out that comets can carry diseases to earth.

They must have eaten Eucalyptus leaves on the ark.
Maybe the same way they survive in zoos. Carnivores can live on kibble such as we feed our pets today (dogs, cats).
And with this answer you've reduced yourself to speculating again'

"could have been"
"possibly"
"I think"
"must have"
"maybe"

Not exactly a firm foundation there. In short, you don't know.

BTW, pets (carnivores) need real food. My dog loves meaty bones and insists on good food, he rejects the other stuff. Same is true of the cat, it has to be special cans of tuna and salmon with her. They both will eat some dry foods but neither could make it on that alone.
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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And with this answer you've reduced yourself to speculating again'

"could have been"
"possibly"
"I think"
"must have"
"maybe"

Not exactly a firm foundation there. In short, you don't know.

BTW, pets (carnivores) need real food. My dog loves meaty bones and insists on good food, he rejects the other stuff. Same is true of the cat, it has to be special cans of tuna and salmon with her. They both will eat some dry foods but neither could make it on that alone.
It could be you are just wrong too . . . as if you actually know for sure.

My two dogs can eat raw food from Primo or for the last couple weeks have been eating Acana kibble. Some people feed their dogs kibble their whole life. One year in the ark eating kibble isn't going to kill them and I know that for a fact. Sure, kibble is not ideal but then again, neither is a world-wide flood. And besides, it was dark in the ark, like a park that is stark of street lamps. The animals didn't eat as much due to being confined. They just chilled out.
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