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Old 05-14-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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Lucky you! Today is your day to learn something new. Let's spin the globe and see where she stops, shall we? Round and round it goes and stops on.....China. A modern country with people who build things like your computer. And phone. And TV. The Chinese, (they are the people in that really big country in Asia) have a WRITTEN history that dates back to the Shang Dynasty which was 1,000 to 1,600 years before Christ.
I don't know how you think your point changes mine ? As if their written tales are to be 100% trusted ?
The Shangs believed in a lot of crazy things. You shouldn't trust them. :-)
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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I don't know how you think your point changes mine ? As if their written tales are to be 100% trusted ?
The Shangs believed in a lot of crazy things. You shouldn't trust them. :-)
If it helps them discount Christianity, of course they'll believe it 100%!
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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If it helps them discount Christianity, of course they'll believe it 100%!
Who is "them" and how the heck does learning about what people were doing in China 1,500 years before Christ discount Christianity?

I posted that because I dislike the provincial attitude about history that is prevalent among fundamentalists and wanted to point out that the Chinese have an ancient culture that pre-exists Christianity. They left a written record. Native peoples in Arizona were building water canals 2,000 years before Christ. The canals exist today as a record. Does that discount Christianity?

How does that work in religion according to Viz? Does the existence of the Chinese and Hohokam, thousands of years before Jesus, threaten what you believe?

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Old 05-14-2015, 08:47 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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If it helps them discount Christianity, of course they'll believe it 100%!
You people have got to do better than this You produce something that makes no sense in evidential terms if it makes any sense at all and when we ask for support or clarification as appropriate you nod to each other at 'confirmation' of our supposed closed mindedness.

You rely on Faith - you know you do. And to discount evidence, you have to cheat by labelling it "stuff that helps them to disbelieve Christianity".

The fault is neither with us, nor the evidence. It is with you failing so see the validity of evidence. If you did, and just say 'I rely on faith, not evidence'. Then at least we could agree to differ. Instead, you cheat and try to make faith do the job of evidence.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Adam was the first man, and he worshiped God...so yah....
How long ago did Adam live?
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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And I gave a response. Moses recorded the history of creation in Genesis.
Is Genesis the first book written? Or just placed first?
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:26 PM
 
Location: US
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Is Genesis the first book written? Or just placed first?
The Jews don't even believe Moses wrote the Torah...
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Old 05-15-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Jews don't even believe Moses wrote the Torah...
Some do, Richard. We have our share of fundamentalists, just like every other group.
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Old 05-15-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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The Jews don't even believe Moses wrote the Torah...
I'm wondering what Vizio thinks.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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I'm wondering what Vizio thinks.
Probably that he Jews don't understand their own religion after 6,000 plus years...
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