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Old 05-25-2015, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Forsake God, forsake God's Word [after all it was only mythology written by men], forsake Christ.

How is this different from Humanism?
If it were a matter of forsaking God, His Word OR Christ, you would have a point, but it is not. It is a matter of finding out what Christ revealed about God, the difference between God's Word and The Bible, and finally, what Christ actually taught as opposed to the perceptions about Him taught as religion. The difference between that and Humanism is the method for finding out that concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation is what it is all about. It's called "love," look into it.
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Old 05-25-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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If it were a matter of forsaking God, His Word OR Christ, you would have a point, but it is not. It is a matter of finding out what Christ revealed about God, the difference between God's Word and The Bible, and finally, what Christ actually taught as opposed to the perceptions about Him taught as religion. The difference between that and Humanism is the method for finding out that concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation is what it is all about. It's called "love," look into it.
Well said, nate! Too bad so many seem not to understand what God really wants from us. They have been taught that they have to believe the right things ABOUT God . . . or else . . . which is preposterous! What we believe is NOT a choice . . . what we CLAIM to accept IS. Loving concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation IS a choice and one Christ has asked us to make. What you believe only matters in that you believe God exists . . . which as a belief is also NOT a choice. If it exists it will affect your treatment of others and those "fruits" will reveal and validate its existence . . . NOT your claims of belief.
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Old 05-25-2015, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Why would you think the native of Samaria was an infidel ? God's Word does not say he was an infidel.






You did not find that in any of my posts.

Rejecting Christ on the other hand, ...
The entire point of the story is that Samaritans WERE considered infidels. Still another example of the same concept was Jesus approaching a Samaritan woman at a Well in a Samaritan town. He approached her when men did not approach women, especially Samaritan women, and a w **** to boot.

The stories tie together spiritually in that With the Good Samaritan Jesus was pointing out to religious bible thumpers of his day that while they were passing by people who needed help, even a hated Samaritan could be the one coming to their rescue. it was a Jewish rabbi whose blog I read that pointed out what the story would mean to a Jew.

The second story of the woman at the well is further physical demonstration by Jesus that OT laws and traditions about not approaching women, especially unclean women by way of adultery, and not approaching infidel Samaritans (the Samaritans have their own OT that is different from the Hebrew OT) was simply wrong. And He showed us how to overcome those biblical traditions and cultural differences by choosing to walk through Samaria rather than walk around it as was the practice of the most religious in Judae.

Two stories but one theme with two angles: The one you despise (say a homosexual) may be the very one to pull your sorry self out of the gutter. Is he your neighbor or not? And likewise just because we think someone else is unapproachable because of who they are, it is as easy as making an honest, open, non-judgmental approach. Both Jesus and that awful Samaritan w **** needed water that day, and both were able to meet the need of the other with simple kindness.

You who have eyes to see shall see, and those who do not will not.
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Old 05-25-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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The entire point of the story is that Samaritans WERE considered infidels. Still another example of the same concept was Jesus approaching a Samaritan woman at a Well in a Samaritan town. He approached her when men did not approach women, especially Samaritan women, and a w **** to boot.

The stories tie together spiritually in that With the Good Samaritan Jesus was pointing out to religious bible thumpers of his day that while they were passing by people who needed help, even a hated Samaritan could be the one coming to their rescue. it was a Jewish rabbi whose blog I read that pointed out what the story would mean to a Jew.

The second story of the woman at the well is further physical demonstration by Jesus that OT laws and traditions about not approaching women, especially unclean women by way of adultery, and not approaching infidel Samaritans (the Samaritans have their own OT that is different from the Hebrew OT) was simply wrong. And He showed us how to overcome those biblical traditions and cultural differences by choosing to walk through Samaria rather than walk around it as was the practice of the most religious in Judae.

Two stories but one theme with two angles: The one you despise (say a homosexual) may be the very one to pull your sorry self out of the gutter. Is he your neighbor or not? And likewise just because we think someone else is unapproachable because of who they are, it is as easy as making an honest, open, non-judgmental approach. Both Jesus and that awful Samaritan w **** needed water that day, and both were able to meet the need of the other with simple kindness.

You who have eyes to see shall see, and those who do not will not.
PREACH, BROTHER!
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Old 05-25-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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PREACH, BROTHER!
Oh, he does!
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:12 PM
 
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The entire point of the story is that Samaritans WERE considered infidels. Still another example of the same concept was Jesus approaching a Samaritan woman at a Well in a Samaritan town. He approached her when men did not approach women, especially Samaritan women, and a w **** to boot.
The stories tie together spiritually in that With the Good Samaritan Jesus was pointing out to religious bible thumpers of his day that while they were passing by people who needed help, even a hated Samaritan could be the one coming to their rescue. it was a Jewish rabbi whose blog I read that pointed out what the story would mean to a Jew.
The second story of the woman at the well is further physical demonstration by Jesus that OT laws and traditions about not approaching women, especially unclean women by way of adultery, and not approaching infidel Samaritans (the Samaritans have their own OT that is different from the Hebrew OT) was simply wrong. And He showed us how to overcome those biblical traditions and cultural differences by choosing to walk through Samaria rather than walk around it as was the practice of the most religious in Judae.
Two stories but one theme with two angles: The one you despise (say a homosexual) may be the very one to pull your sorry self out of the gutter. Is he your neighbor or not? And likewise just because we think someone else is unapproachable because of who they are, it is as easy as making an honest, open, non-judgmental approach. Both Jesus and that awful Samaritan w **** needed water that day, and both were able to meet the need of the other with simple kindness.
You who have eyes to see shall see, and those who do not will not.
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Oh, he does!
And very, very effectively indeed!!!
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Old 05-26-2015, 05:32 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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The entire point of the story is that Samaritans WERE considered infidels. Still another example of the same concept was Jesus approaching a Samaritan woman at a Well in a Samaritan town. He approached her when men did not approach women, especially Samaritan women, and a w **** to boot.

The stories tie together spiritually in that With the Good Samaritan Jesus was pointing out to religious bible thumpers of his day that while they were passing by people who needed help, even a hated Samaritan could be the one coming to their rescue. it was a Jewish rabbi whose blog I read that pointed out what the story would mean to a Jew.

The second story of the woman at the well is further physical demonstration by Jesus that OT laws and traditions about not approaching women, especially unclean women by way of adultery, and not approaching infidel Samaritans (the Samaritans have their own OT that is different from the Hebrew OT) was simply wrong. And He showed us how to overcome those biblical traditions and cultural differences by choosing to walk through Samaria rather than walk around it as was the practice of the most religious in Judae.

Two stories but one theme with two angles: The one you despise (say a homosexual) may be the very one to pull your sorry self out of the gutter. Is he your neighbor or not? And likewise just because we think someone else is unapproachable because of who they are, it is as easy as making an honest, open, non-judgmental approach. Both Jesus and that awful Samaritan w **** needed water that day, and both were able to meet the need of the other with simple kindness.

You who have eyes to see shall see, and those who do not will not.
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PREACH, BROTHER!
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Oh, he does!
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And very, very effectively indeed!!!

For a moment I thought I had something more to say...but I believe it is ALL covered..
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:38 AM
 
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They are basically CINOs (Christians in name only).
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Old 05-30-2015, 04:59 AM
 
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They are basically CINOs (Christians in name only).
Because Christianity is really all about condemning whatever you don't like?
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Old 05-30-2015, 11:39 PM
 
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Because Christianity is really all about condemning whatever you don't like?
Who said it was?
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