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Again, it's just sensationalism. Everyone involved went on to live perfectly normal lives. No one is dead. Was it wrong? Of course. Was it ignored? Not at all. This is simply a witch hunt because they are Christian. Nothing more, nothing less. If this were the Osbornes instead of the Duggars, nobody would care.
He was a political lobbyist who sought to influence legislation in the name of morality. The fact that he is a serial child molester is very relevant. The fact that he is a Christian, not so much.
So far as I know, Ozzy Osborne is not a political lobbyist.
Thank you. I didn't know how the parents found out. I assume that as soon as he got caught and his parents found out what he was doing they took him to that cop to confess? Then sent him away? I'm not saying they did enough, but I just want to make sure that they did do something as soon as they caught him.
I read that he started doing this at age 14 and continued to do it until age 17. So not sure how true that is if he got caught at age 14, but then continued to do it until he was 17?
I have read that many if not most juvenile sex offenders were themselves abused in some way. With proper treatment most do not continue this behavior when they reach adulthood.
Nope. The parents found out, and talked to him. Then they found out AGAIN and talked to the church about it, the THIRD time they found out they sent him to "counseling" but it wasn't with a counselor, or treatment facility it was remodeling a building with a family friend. Then he got to talk to pedo cop later.
As far as I am concerned THIS is the problem. The parents hid what was going on, did not get proper counseling for him or the girls, and didn't report anything to the proper authorities.
Again, it's just sensationalism. Everyone involved went on to live perfectly normal lives. No one is dead. Was it wrong? Of course. Was it ignored? Not at all. This is simply a witch hunt because they are Christian. Nothing more, nothing less. If this were the Osbornes instead of the Duggars, nobody would care.
Every page of this thread makes me despise christianity even more than I did before. Thank you for reminding me what a revolting and dangerous cult you belong to; threads like this just make me want to double down on everything I do in my life to wipe the scourge of christianity from the face of the earth like the plague that it is.
Thank you. I didn't know how the parents found out. I assume that as soon as he got caught and his parents found out what he was doing they took him to that cop to confess? Then sent him away? I'm not saying they did enough, but I just want to make sure that they did do something as soon as they caught him.
I read that he started doing this at age 14 and continued to do it until age 17. So not sure how true that is if he got caught at age 14, but then continued to do it until he was 17?
I have read that many if not most juvenile sex offenders were themselves abused in some way. With proper treatment most do not continue this behavior when they reach adulthood.
More than a year elapsed between the time JimBob first became aware of Josh's activities and the time he was sent away to work construction. During that year plus, he molested 5 girls multiple times. After 4 months of working construction, he returned home. There is no official record of any incidents following his return home.
Neither Josh nor his victims received any real help. We know this because licensed mental health professionals are mandatory reporters and there was no police report made until 2006 when the local police investigated following a tip from Harpo Studios (Oprah's company).
The cop they took Josh to see was a personal friend. He did not file an official report, even though he was legally required to do so. That same cop friend is currently serving a 56 year sentence for multiple counts of possession of child pornography.
Talk about a desperate attempt to dig up dirt. I don't see anywhere where she specifically said or downplayed molestation as a normal everyday thing that anyone would do. She speaks more about the nature and consequence of sin in general. She even says this:
"The victims of Josh’s actions should not be lost in all of this. Sadly, this type of thing is all too common. Victims of sexual abuse of any kind often suffer greatly for many years as a result of these sins. We should not downplay the seriousness of these offenses particularly, nor gloss over the pain and confusion they often bring, sometimes for a lifetime."
That doesn't sound like the rhetoric I keep hearing where fundamentalists blame the victims.
What article did you read? Who is "she?"
He, Josh's father-in-law said--
“As it stands criminal charges were not brought against Josh but I believe that Josh’s parents acted in a way that godly parents should,†Seewald writes. After the Duggars discovered their son’s horrific actions, he was sent for treatment at a center run by a man who ultimately resigned after it was discovered that he was “sexually grooming†teens and young women.
A witch hunt is 'a campaign directed against a person or group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.'
Nobody is claiming this kid was innocent, but the reason there is such a vehement backlash is because of his unpopular Christian views. People are making the most irrational, extreme statements that is completely disproportionate to the alleged 'crime'. Do you deny this?
I don't think the backlash is because of his far right Christian views. I think the backlash is because he did something very bad that goes against everything he and his family stand for. It is hypocritical, to say the least.
His views and his family's views haven't changed in the last week. Up until a few days ago, you would see a lot of people defending their right to live as they choose, even if it is extreme. It is the molestation causing the backlash, not the views.
Every page of this thread makes me despise christianity even more than I did before. Thank you for reminding me what a revolting and dangerous cult you belong to; threads like this just make me want to double down on everything I do in my life to wipe the scourge of christianity from the face of the earth like the plague that it is.
I agree. It's pretty darn disgusting.
Keep in mind, there are a few genuinely decent people who wear the title "Christian". They are unfortunately few and far between.
Nope. The parents found out, and talked to him. Then they found out AGAIN and talked to the church about it, the THIRD time they found out they sent him to "counseling" but it wasn't with a counselor, or treatment facility it was remodeling a building with a family friend. Then he got to talk to pedo cop later.
As far as I am concerned THIS is the problem. The parents hid what was going on, did not get proper counseling for him or the girls, and didn't report anything to the proper authorities.
yeah, that is not good. The parents should have made sure everyone received proper counseling.
Thank you. I didn't know how the parents found out. I assume that as soon as he got caught and his parents found out what he was doing they took him to that cop to confess? Then sent him away? I'm not saying they did enough, but I just want to make sure that they did do something as soon as they caught him.
I read that he started doing this at age 14 and continued to do it until age 17. So not sure how true that is if he got caught at age 14, but then continued to do it until he was 17?
I have read that many if not most juvenile sex offenders were themselves abused in some way. With proper treatment most do not continue this behavior when they reach adulthood.
I thought 2 of his sisters told their parents 2 separate times. I don't think there is any official report of any touching after he was 14-15.
yeah, that is not good. The parents should have made sure everyone received proper counseling.
Yes, they certainly should have. They also should have made certain he had no further access to his victims as soon as they became aware of the matter.
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