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Old 06-02-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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^^ What does it matter if it's "copy & paste"? How do you know who is behind that site, it could be me? It's still a valid source.
WHICH Chritianity is true? My liberal one that is inclusive and accepts evolution, or the fundamentalist exclusive and creationist view? What about Christians believing in the Trinity (for which there is extremely limited and sketchy evidence) or the Mormon view of God is One and Jesus is a chip off the old block, so to speak. What about tongues speaking Christians versus those that call it babble?

Many agnostics believe Jesus was historical (read Bart Ehrman's books--Bart was a conservative Christian turned agnostic---full of terrific textual criticism of the NT). But which Jesus do you understand to be the historical one? The Jesus in Mark? The one in Matthew/Luke? Or the completely different Jesus in John?

Christians read these completely separate books and conflate them into one record--which they are not.

Try forgetting everything you know about Jesus and read only Mark---and stop after verse eight of chapter 16 as that is as far as the original writing goes. Verse 9-20 were added by a scribe much later to make a "sensible" ending to the story.

Reading Mark's testimony of Jesus in this fashion does not lead one to the conclusion that Jesus was the Son of God, nor that He died as a propitiation for our sins. It is only by creating a different gospel from the four that were written as individual accounts that we reach Christianity of today which still has 30,000 different denominations all believing different things.

How can anyone say Christianity is 100% true when there are at least 30,000 separate viewpoints? Was Jesus a historical figure? Of course. Who was the man and was He God or the Son of God or a great prophet? All that breaks down into tens of thousands of viewpoints.

By the way, only my view is the correct one!!!
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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No evidence exists to support the notion of a six day creation, nor does the logic of the creation story hold up. It state's the Earth was older than the sun, and the concept of night and day existed before the sun, which makes absolutely no sense. So even if everything else in the Bible is accurate, the creation story keeps it from being 100% true.
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: california
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What is time?
Your perspective ?
You are not old enough to know what the length of a day was, 5 thousand years ago.
How may planets in this solar system spin?
Do they that spin do so at exactly the same rate ?
So how long is a day on mars?
The length of a day is an invention relivent to the rotation of the earth , other than that, time is not real, it is an accepted fabrication.
But if for some reason the earth was sped up ,what would you do with you clocks and all your time keeping ?
Secondly , record keeping for the length of a day to accomplish a task would seem impossible to some one attempting the same task in the length of a much shorter day.
So what you call a day, and God's perspective of a day, are completely different things.
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Or so it has been claimed by some.

I was asked to start a thread to discuss this issue by someone who claimed that "Christianity is 100% true".
Care to elaborate?
Which version are we talking about?
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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Thanks for the replies, but the person that asked for the thread to be started seems to have gone AWOL.
Oh well, I guess we will never know how "Christianity is 100% true".
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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Age of a book does not make the book contents true.

I can claim that vampires are real, because there are books about vampires. Are you going to believe that is "100% true"?
Bad comparison.
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Old 06-02-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: california
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I believe, that the things Jesus taught, to be 100% true , and "any one" before or after word are questionable.
Though Paul taught concerning Jesus, Paul taught things Jesus did not autorize and were in direct conflict .
This has been the source of division in christainity since the assyembly of the bible.
The bible is an assyembly of old testament scriptures then the gospels the disciples recorded then letters to varrious churches .
Though they are bound together in a book and the references to Jesus exist the do not all represent Him 100% .most of them are personal perspective, not God directed. but most folks are too immature to undrstand that, so they work overtime to try and justify it altogether.
Chapter an verse are not how letters were originally written, that too in an accepted invention.
The jews worshipped their religion, and the temple, and forgot God.
Christians worship their bible, and forget about having a personal relationship with God.
.."the way is narrow, and few there be that find it." Jesus.
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Old 06-02-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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Bad comparison.
Not really. You are using a book to prove that the book is "100% true". I can do the same, right?
There are religious texts far older than the bible. They are older so they must be even more true than the bible according to your logic.
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Old 06-02-2015, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I believe, that the things Jesus taught, to be 100% true , and "any one" before or after word are questionable.
Though Paul taught concerning Jesus, Paul taught things Jesus did not autorize and were in direct conflict .
This has been the source of division in christainity since the assyembly of the bible.
The bible is an assyembly of old testament scriptures then the gospels the disciples recorded then letters to varrious churches .
Though they are bound together in a book and the references to Jesus exist the do not all represent Him 100% .most of them are personal perspective, not God directed. but most folks are too immature to undrstand that, so they work overtime to try and justify it altogether.
Chapter an verse are not how letters were originally written, that too in an accepted invention.
The jews worshipped their religion, and the temple, and forgot God.
Christians worship their bible, and forget about having a personal relationship with God.
.."the way is narrow, and few there be that find it." Jesus.
Arleigh, there have been some of your posts I did not get, perhaps because of your writing style. But this one is spot on. The Bible needs to be viewed through the eyes of Jesus, not the other way around.

Wish I could rep you a dozen times!
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