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Old 06-19-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Those atheists who think the MOA is a question begging fallacy need to get their propositional logic in order before they can think of even beginning to tackle modal logical operations.
Essentially the reason I assume the middle ground of 'Agnostic' in relation to the question.

I understand that people have beliefs for and against and ideas of G()D, and that such ideas of G()D which differ and create opposing regimes are problematic.

G()D as an idea fascinates me beyond any of the normal well entrenched ideas the ancients held and which still play a problematic role in the unfolding evolution of human society.

I have no particular 'definition' of G()D but certainly agree revision is required on the subject.
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Old 06-20-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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In the days before science was studied people could be forgiven for creating a deity and having it living up in the sky out of reach, nowadays there is no such excuse!
Look at the reciprocal.

In the days before science people could be forgiven for thinking that Man cannot land on the moon.
1000 years from now, science may catch up and prove that yes there is a deity.

What you gonna say then?
Apparently you won't be able to do or say anything because you won't be alive.
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Old 06-20-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: USA
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Look at the reciprocal.

In the days before science people could be forgiven for thinking that Man cannot land on the moon.
1000 years from now, science may catch up and prove that yes there is a deity.

What you gonna say then?
Apparently you won't be able to do or say anything because you won't be alive.
2000 years from now, science may discover the Tooth Fairy, but I'm not betting on it.
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:41 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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2000 years from now, science may discover the Tooth Fairy, but I'm not betting on it.
Argument based on the false assumption that the idea of G()D and the idea of the tooth fairy are the same subject.

Sounds legit, but it is fallacy.
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Old 07-04-2015, 03:01 AM
 
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After what happened to you last time, please don't drag this into another creation-evolution polemic, if you value your dignity. It's not relevant to the point.
Haha.
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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Such questions can be answered in a variety of ways, not all of which requires a G()D idea.

Q: What am I doing on this earth?

A: I am living an experience of a human life in which I have a limited level of choice.

Q: Where did I come from?

A: I 'came from' a place in which I have always ever existed. I wanted to know what it would be like to have a beginning and so my kind and I created a way of being able to experience beginnings.

Q: Where am I going from here?

A: This largely depends upon what I manage to find out while I am in this particular simulation of a beginning. My understanding is that I may , at least for a 'time', still be involved in the local area of this reality matrix and perhaps will have a role in helping those aspects of consciousness which have lost their way to reconnect with the greater reality.

Q: Who is my creator?

A: I have no 'creator' as I had no beginning. Simulations involve 'beginnings' and thus do provide us with the ability to conceptualize 'being created' but the reality is that no thing 'created' me really.

Q: What is the purpose of my life?

A: I decide that as I go along.
I think the truth of the matter is this. The Soul is God. The Soul has always existed, but came to this world to learn. It does this by separating itself from non-causal immortal reality where it was always God, to be created by its true self. It also came here to experience separation, so humans could experience love and/or sex.

Humans were created by God. But God was never what we thought.

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Look at the reciprocal.

In the days before science people could be forgiven for thinking that Man cannot land on the moon.
1000 years from now, science may catch up and prove that yes there is a deity.

What you gonna say then?
Apparently you won't be able to do or say anything because you won't be alive.
Or not, apparently.

DNA supposedly has verses from scripture woven in.

Or just straight up cause and effect.

There are already proofs out there, just nobody cares to read them.
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