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Old 06-18-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: NC Piedmont
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Why are you confused?

Do you have anything else to say about your observations regarding the thread topic?
I was following someone else's tangent. But it does relate how different El, OT G*d and NT G*d are.
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Old 06-18-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Rotag, the reason i asked about "feelings" regarding message received from "encounters" with beings in non-physical form, is that our feelings during and after the encounter are litmus test to the quality of the message being received, and whether it is helpful or harmful, safe or dangerous

before I let someone into my home or into my bedroom, i need to know something about them, to be safe and discerning and make good common sense decisions. it is the reason we have locks on our doors and are selective about who we let in our home or friendship or intimacy

as above so below
there are good neighborhoods and bad neighborhoods
there are beings who will help you, and those who mean you nothing but harm

how do you screen them? how do you measure or test their integrity and safety? how do you keep yourself safe from harm? would you agree that it is naive and dangerous to go into a foreign country without knowing how to keep yourself safe? and how to determine which of the characters you meet is wise and helpful, versus those who recognize an easy mark and will harm you in all possible ways?

as above so below
for instance something like the Ouija board accesses the "garbage dump" and attracts a really low level of non-physical form. it is the equivalent of walking into the worst neighborhood in the most dangerous city, wearing all your diamonds and fancy watch and a wallet full of cash. what's going to happen? are you safe?

from there people may go on to occult practices, which are more dangerous and are the equivalent of opening your home and bedroom, and yes sorry to be crude but all your physical orifices to be invaded by let's see what's a good analogy....maybe all the convicted dangerous criminals in the most high security prisons. is it safe to do this? other agents that humans use which attract harmful entities are alcohol and psychotropic drugs. a person can be so desperate for answers to really important questions, they put themself in harms way trying to access information. Asking questions is good. Exposing yourself to danger is not.

i'm not discussing theology or religion or messages received at this point, i am addressing the concern to be safe and discerning in interacting with beings in the non-physical realms. that is why feelings are essential...if during or after the encounters, or because of messages received, there is an increase in your life in hatred, violence, anger, disturbance, then it is not a messenger that has your safety or best interests at heart. be well, be safe, be discerning, because a person opens themself up to harm

I apologize to OP and readers if this is going off topic, if OP prefers we can start a new thread for this to discuss "staying safe and determining validity of messages received from beings in non-human form." thank you

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Old 06-18-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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the other thing i would add, is that if there has been a personal trauma to go to a trusted counselor, therapist, or group. people who have suffered a trauma are susceptible to attack not only on the physical plane, but on the emotional and psychic planes as well.
as above so below

i am happy to hear of your art and music and poetry, those can be very beneficial and healing and positive in terms of creativity and satisfaction
peace be well

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Old 06-18-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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I apologize to OP and readers if this is going off topic, if OP prefers we can start a new thread for this to discuss "staying safe and determining validity of messages received from beings in non-human form." thank you
I would say if you want to discuss this subject you would be best to create a thread to do so Tzap.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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Tangents are fine by me
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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Tangents are fine by me



Here is something I got from googling El and Anu.

In relation to that data, I would say the primary candidate for Yaweh would be Marduk rather than Anu.

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After Hammurabi, Anu retained his identity as the god of heaven, but was replaced as the chief god by Marduk, his grandson. The Babylonian myth known as Enuma Elish describes how Marduk came to achieve his position as chief god by rebelling against Tiamat, portrayed as a monstrous female sea deity.

Tiamat gives the Tablets of Destiny to her minion, Kingu, bestowing on him dominion over the gods this giving him "the power of Anu." Ansar, Anu's father, dispatches Anu to face Tiamat but he cannot withstand her. Finally, the gods decide that the only one equal to the task is Marduk. They declare him to be the greatest of them all and elect him as their leader and king. Ultimately, Marduk smashes Tiamat’s skull with his club, and half of her titanic body becomes the sky. Then, "he stretched the immensity of the firmament... and Anu and Enlil and Ea had each their right stations." Later, Marduk creates the physical world and humankind. Thus, Anu was retired to his honored place in the distant heavens, and Marduk became the ruling king of the gods.
The dynamics are intriguing.
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Old 06-19-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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No I don't think you quite understand...not idols... unless you are implying that G()D is an idol? No you are not.
Upon further deeper pondering...yes! that is what worship is about. Idolizing one's accepted idea of "G()D."

The 'image' of god may no longer be represented as a material thing, but the same impulse to idolize some kind of image - even a 'spiritual' (invisible) one - is still a form of idolatry!
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Old 06-20-2015, 05:43 PM
 
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Do any Christians or Jews acknowledge El and the pantheon?

Apparently not.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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Do any Christians or Jews acknowledge El and the pantheon?

Apparently not.
El Pantheon....Great Mexican Restaurant....
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