Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 yrs

[Hannibal Flavius]

Christians should know and they should prepare every year for what the Lord has appointed them on every visitation day, every year you get marked whether you know it or not.

Every Christian should be aware of the path layed out before them and this path ends in becoming a firstfruit.

Very few people are considered ''firstfruits.''

The Order of Resurrection
…22For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming,

Jesus became a submissive virgin when he went all the way to death, and he was planted in the ground as the first seed that would survive, and on Nisan 17, the Earth gave birth to her first son, and he was the first of first fruits in that he was found blameless and innocent as a submissive virgin before God standing in flesh as the flesh is a house, a woman that holds a spirit.

But being amongst those who have obtained the reward of first resurrection is a very rare thing, the majority will not be amongst the first resurrection as firstfruits because the majority have not raised their children.

Jesus was resurrected as the new Adam because his body gave birth to the son he had raised just as we are all given a seed, and we all become the householders, God's own servants in charge of given his children meat in due season.

''Woe unto those with children and weaning children in those days.''


This raising of your own child is a theme that runs throughout the bible, and God has said that he has created a new thing in the Earth, '' A woman shall encompass a man.''


How will a woman give birth to a full grown man?

That's what Jesus did, he was the first born into a kingdom that many sons will also follow into BECAUSE they walked in the design and they themselves came to being the firstfruits and they alone receive the reward.


But you take away all the knowledge of the feast of Jesus and you have no plan, you have no design.


1 Corinthians 3~Reward verses salvation

12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward . 15If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.



Not everyone will be the same, some will hear,'' depart from me.''

Some will be escorted right out of the kingdom after they tried to sit down and recline with Abraham, Jacob and Isaac, some escorted out of the banquet, and yet they are still around.

Half will not be able to enter into the wedding chamber to consummate the marriage and some don't even know of said marriage.


Today's Christianity is a feel good thing, like everything is going to be alright, I wished I still felt that way.

[Rotagivan]

Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius

Some of my closest friends are Wiccans and from other religions, my whole family is pagan, kids, all of them, I don't see them as going to hell or anything. When people quote scriptures of the kingdom of heaven, they usually don't know that the temple mirrors the kingdom and there are 3 sections. People can speak against the law, they can choose not to keep the law and even teach others to not keep the law and they still aren't going to hell, but they are the least in the kingdom who stand with the sexual immoral, amongst those who love to love a lie.

I believe in the God of the Bible and his Messiah. God has his own worship system with his own Sabbaths and his own feasts that do not involve the worship and traditions of other Gods. He has his own peculiar appointed visitation days when he comes to visit. He has his own commandments.

Tammuz, the Messiah of Babylon has his Sabbaths, and his feast days with his traditions that teach about his resurrection and his return. There are many messiahs around the world, many gods, and if it is not the God of Israel and his worship system, then I basically see it as pagan.

I don't point my finger at them like they are going to hell or something because I don't believe that, but they will not enter into the higher Zoe kingdom unless they reach for it, and reaching for it requires that you abandon and lose your life.{ I don't expect to make it myself, it is the very few, the very extremely few.}

It requires loyalty and sacrifice in that you become peculiar to God and peculiar to the world who will no doubt hate you if you choose to follow God.

But yeah, I believe in the God of the Bible, and he is not of two minds, he has his own worship system and appointed days that do not involve the holy days, traditions, and rituals of other gods.



The first gentiles abandoned all their former gods, all their holy days, traditions, and rituals and they began walking in Pesach.

Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius

My ideas end with an ultimate goal of you yourself becoming a son of God born from a virgin. The goal is not to get to some lovely place, but the reward is that you are given the same promises as were spoken to the Messiah, that YOU will rule the nations with a rod of iron and this is very specific in that the Messiah rules all nations from within people, not from a throne, and if you are given the same promises, it insinuates that there is a millions earths out there which are inhabited by other people, and like the Messiah, you go down to that earth and show kindness and sacrifice, and you also become a spirit which rules in the lives of an earth.

But that is only reward, I tend to think people have to keep coming back because they keep failing, who knows what's out there, but the kingdom of heaven is detailed within the design and the comings and goings of the Temple itself, and what you find in the Temple is only to shadow what you find in the kingdom of heaven.


The plan that we are given to walk is a 7 year plan walking 3 and a half years in the spring and then 3 and a half years in the fall, and you progress through a stepladder of feast days culminating in the grand reward of receiving the promise on Shemini Atzereth, but if you take away the feast days and the design, you take away everything, you take away all chance of progressing.

Or so you have been told.


Not to forget of course you are in your position as a matter of choice and thus if one chooses to believe in something that requires you don't look to closely at it, you won't come to serious harm...well one does what one is instructed to do.

I see your idea of reward is very...even...extremely tempting for a human soul to wish for and desire to become.

You will still be only the Genie in the bottle in relation to The Game being played.

You will get to help build the machinery and control outcomes but there you go, one infinitesimal G()D among a minion of such. Perhaps altogether you will then be able to give a hint as to exactly what a G()D is and how it behaves when confined?

I suggest respectfully that such a G()D would be looking for a way out. Perhaps such a G()D believes that the machinery itself will provide the answer?

Failing that...perhaps a journey 'within'?

[Hannibal Flavius]

Originally Posted by Rotagivan

Or so you have been told.


Not to forget of course you are in your position as a matter of choice and thus if one chooses to believe in something that requires you don't look to closely at it, you won't come to serious harm...well one does what one is instructed to do.

I see your idea of reward is very...even...extremely tempting for a human soul to wish for and desire to become.

You will still be only the Genie in the bottle in relation to The Game being played.

You will get to help build the machinery and control outcomes but there you go, one infinitesimal G()D among a minion of such. Perhaps altogether you will then be able to give a hint as to exactly what a G()D is and how it behaves when confined?

I suggest respectfully that such a G()D would be looking for a way out. Perhaps such a G()D believes that the machinery itself will provide the answer?

Failing that...perhaps a journey 'within'?

So I have been told from the bible, I don't know of anyone else that thinks like I do so that what I believe is pretty much mine.

When I read the Parables, I don't get even close to what other people read, but then they are parables. Behind the language of the parables is the language of all the feast days and the missions of those feast days.

What I know and believe about walking in the feast days is not really shared with many people, I mean that most people aren't going to agree but usually that is just a lack of knowledge when people don't know anything about the feasts and missions of Christ in those feast days.

Paul taught the times and seasons to the first gentile converts and he says that they have no fear that Jesus will come to them like a thief in the night BECAUSE they knew the comings and goings of the master within the schedule of the appointed visitation days.

Jesus warns us over and over that if we will not watch, then he will come in a time that we do not look for him, and if the servant does not know the visitation days of the master, then he is cut in half, or should we say,'' Divided,'' from soul and spirit. Jesus warns us that if we do not watch, we will not know the day or the hour BECAUSE we don't watch the feast days.

Continual warnings about whether you know the visitation days of Christ or not, but the gentiles were taught those seasons and times so that they had no fear Jesus would come on them like a thief.

But that is not true today, and it has not been true since the gentiles abandoned the feasts and the knowledge of the visitation days and what those days are to accomplish.

Christians should be aware that Rosh Hashanah is right around the corner and then comes Yom Kippur, these things did not stop happening when the Temple was destroyed, we have a priest who is in heaven and he is officiating in all these days, and he will speak your name on Rosh Hashanah and we will find out where you stand, whether this year, or a year to come. People are marked in their foreheads and right hands for who they are.


So much information has been lost by gentiles rejecting Judaism that they don't even know how to get a mark in their foreheads and right hands when this is the most ancient tradition around.

You start a thread on the 7 seals of Revelation and everyone and his mother has an opinion when it is not about an opinion, it is about long standing tradition how a Jew is wrapped in 7 pieces of linen and placed in a tomb.

So much lost and changed about who Christ is that people don't even know how or when to keep the Passover they hope in.

But Passover is only the beginning and it is only one day. Passover isn't a day to debate about whether or not you keep the true Passover of something else. Passover is a way of life, a lifestyle that you are demanded to die, every single day you die, and if you keep dying, then the seed you were given will be planted and die, and unless a seed die, it will not bear fruit. Jesus is formed in a person, he just doesn't show up, buut he is formed in people who die daily, and who walk a progressive walk towards Sahvuot, and when they have walked in Shavuot, they can come up to the marriage of Rosh Hashanah, be singled out and marked on Yom Kippur, they can be born again on Sukkot after they have went all the way to death, and they can become like a tree planted amongst the green grass and become a shelter and source of sustenance to many, and their limbs will be for shade like their leaves are for teaching many with good words....

And if a person comes to Sukkot and he prays for the rain for his final seed, then the rain will fall on his seed, and his seed will die if he comes up to Sukkot, Shemini Atzereth can be realized in him.

The promise of the giving of spirit are two promises, two comings of rain, and two comings of Messiah with two givings of spirit.

Passover Atzereth was given after Jesus died, those disciples stayed in the upper room on the Passover conclusion day and they received the promise that millions had waited on and not received.

Sukkot Atzereth~ Shemini Atzereth is the conclusion day of the fall just as Pentecost is the conclusion day of the spring.


Instead of people walking around claiming they have the spirit of Pentecost, they should be preparing for the promise of Shemini Atzereth, this day should be on the lips of every Christian, but most Christians never even heard of Shemini Atzereth EVEN THOUGH, it is the most anticipated day in the whole of the bible.

It is the one day that every believer in Messiah should know like the back of their hand, unfortunately, the knowledge of Jesus is hidden from all people.

How something so great could be so lost is unimaginable, but there it is, hidden from Satan.

[Rotagivan]

Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius

So I have been told from the bible, I don't know of anyone else that thinks like I do so that what I believe is pretty much mine.

Okay.

When I read the Parables, I don't get even close to what other people read, but then they are parables. Behind the language of the parables is the language of all the feast days and the missions of those feast days.

What I know and believe about walking in the feast days is not really shared with many people, I mean that most people aren't going to agree but usually that is just a lack of knowledge when people don't know anything about the feasts and missions of Christ in those feast days.

Paul taught the times and seasons to the first gentile converts and he says that they have no fear that Jesus will come to them like a thief in the night BECAUSE they knew the comings and goings of the master within the schedule of the appointed visitation days.

Jesus warns us over and over that if we will not watch, then he will come in a time that we do not look for him, and if the servant does not know the visitation days of the master, then he is cut in half, or should we say,'' Divided,'' from soul and spirit. Jesus warns us that if we do not watch, we will not know the day or the hour BECAUSE we don't watch the feast days.

Continual warnings about whether you know the visitation days of Christ or not, but the gentiles were taught those seasons and times so that they had no fear Jesus would come on them like a thief.

But that is not true today, and it has not been true since the gentiles abandoned the feasts and the knowledge of the visitation days and what those days are to accomplish.

Okay. So are you claiming that observing these 'feast days' allows for you to...be visited by Jesus?

Christians should be aware that Rosh Hashanah is right around the corner and then comes Yom Kippur, these things did not stop happening when the Temple was destroyed, we have a priest who is in heaven and he is officiating in all these days, and he will speak your name on Rosh Hashanah and we will find out where you stand, whether this year, or a year to come. People are marked in their foreheads and right hands for who they are.

This all sounds like belief rather than anything you have actually experienced or know to be a matter of fact. Would that be a fair assessment?

So much information has been lost by gentiles rejecting Judaism that they don't even know how to get a mark in their foreheads and right hands when this is the most ancient tradition around.

Ah...a tradition...

You start a thread on the 7 seals of Revelation and everyone and his mother has an opinion when it is not about an opinion, it is about long standing tradition how a Jew is wrapped in 7 pieces of linen and placed in a tomb.

I don;t have an opinion on it, but I won;t speak for my mother.

So much lost and changed about who Christ is that people don't even know how or when to keep the Passover they hope in.

But Passover is only the beginning and it is only one day. Passover isn't a day to debate about whether or not you keep the true Passover of something else. Passover is a way of life, a lifestyle that you are demanded to die, every single day you die, and if you keep dying, then the seed you were given will be planted and die, and unless a seed die, it will not bear fruit. Jesus is formed in a person, he just doesn't show up, buut he is formed in people who die daily, and who walk a progressive walk towards Sahvuot, and when they have walked in Shavuot, they can come up to the marriage of Rosh Hashanah, be singled out and marked on Yom Kippur, they can be born again on Sukkot after they have went all the way to death, and they can become like a tree planted amongst the green grass and become a shelter and source of sustenance to many, and their limbs will be for shade like their leaves are for teaching many with good words....

Sounds like you are saying that people become trees and such. But what are you meaning when you say 'people'? You obviously are referring to them as being bodies which die, but dying daily is a metaphor.

If so - what are they the metaphor of?

And if a person comes to Sukkot and he prays for the rain for his final seed, then the rain will fall on his seed, and his seed will die if he comes up to Sukkot, Shemini Atzereth can be realized in him.

The promise of the giving of spirit are two promises, two comings of rain, and two comings of Messiah with two givings of spirit.

Passover Atzereth was given after Jesus died, those disciples stayed in the upper room on the Passover conclusion day and they received the promise that millions had waited on and not received.

Sukkot Atzereth~ Shemini Atzereth is the conclusion day of the fall just as Pentecost is the conclusion day of the spring.


Instead of people walking around claiming they have the spirit of Pentecost, they should be preparing for the promise of Shemini Atzereth, this day should be on the lips of every Christian, but most Christians never even heard of Shemini Atzereth EVEN THOUGH, it is the most anticipated day in the whole of the bible.

It is the one day that every believer in Messiah should know like the back of their hand, unfortunately, the knowledge of Jesus is hidden from all people.

How something so great could be so lost is unimaginable, but there it is, hidden from Satan.

So really this belief you have which is probably one only you have (as you suggested at the beginning of your post). why is it that you believe this and why is it you believe that it is the correct thing to believe?

It seems extremely complicated and partial.

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[Hannibal Flavius]

Originally Posted by Rotagivan

Okay.



Okay. So are you claiming that observing these 'feast days' allows for you to...be visited by Jesus?



This all sounds like belief rather than anything you have actually experienced or know to be a matter of fact. Would that be a fair assessment?




Ah...a tradition...



I don;t have an opinion on it, but I won;t speak for my mother.







Sounds like you are saying that people become trees and such. But what are you meaning when you say 'people'? You obviously are referring to them as being bodies which die, but dying daily is a metaphor.

If so - what are they the metaphor of?



So really this belief you have which is probably one only you have (as you suggested at the beginning of your post). why is it that you believe this and why is it you believe that it is the correct thing to believe?

It seems extremely complicated and partial.

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What I say is in a minority because most people don't know the worship system of Jesus, or the plan he has layed down for anyone who would choose to walk the plan.

The plan is described in many places just like the 4 parables of Matthew 13.




The sower is the barley harvest where you die daily and plant your seed, and this barley harvest is the Passover. It moves through Shavuot as Shavuot IS the wheat harvest, and from there to the fruit harvest after a person has been through the barley, and the wheat, he becomes a tree from a small seed and his covering is the covering of the feast of Tabernacles, his shelter is a shade for many as his words are good words that lead others to the path.

Sukkot, the feast of tabernacles is all about building a covering and being found under the trees, it means that you have made it through Passover, through Shavuot, and into the fall holy days that you have become a new creature.

But you would be wrong in assuming that I have not obtained rewards from this walk already. A person makes up his mind to walk as a prophet until he can die to his prophesy to come to the end of his days in prophesying through the flesh.

Jesus showed us what the kingdom of heaven is{what we are}.

We saw Elijah the prophet, Moses the priest, and Jesus the king, and this is the path of anyone who would begin a serious walk with God.

Everyone begins as Elijah calling judgment and fire but God is not in the fire and earthquake, Elijah should have went all the way to death and he should have become a priest teaching instead of being the great prophet.

So a prophet realizes his mentality and he stops walking around with fire proceeding from his mouth, he becomes as Elisha and seeks to teach people the truth instead of killing people in judgment.

So the prophet says to himself, he says,'' I am no prophet,''

He begins to die to his vanity and his desire to be that great prophet.

The prophet sees the path and seeks to become a priest, and so he looks up the requirements and promises of God that is spoken for the person who would become a priest.


So if the person fulfills the requirements of becoming a priest, then God promises to give them an anointing BECAUSE he fulfilled the requirements and is then able to be appointed as a priest, even a Levite.

I would tell anyone looking for God, that if you fulfill the requirements of becoming a priest in walking the path that God has for you, then God will certainly stay good to his promise and give you a special anointing, and your life will change forever.

There is a walk, a path which is layed out through walking the lifestyles of the feast days, and those feast days come with reward to anyone who passes from one level to the next.


When Peter jumped from the boat and met Jesus on the beach, he was graduating from one level to the next, but who would you speak to about these things when most people simply don't know the feast days of Jesus or the promises associated with those feast days.

[Hannibal Flavius]

A Christian who is removed from knowing the planned design that God would have them walk in is a sad thing to see. Christians today are looking for two witnesses, and they are waiting for something that will never happen if they do not make it happen themselves.

God gives his two witnesses power, and unfortunately, he gives both witnesses power. We are in a struggle like two different men in a womb, one is of flesh and he desires to be great, to be rich, to be fed, and he is the son who would be that great prophet who wants to call fire down on the heads of everyone. But the other one is a kind, gentle, humble spirit of the hidden man.


Just as those first disciples asked Jesus,'' Lord, should we call fire down from heaven to consume these people?''

Jesus turned and looked at them and said,'' You speak from your father Satan,'' BECAUSE they were speaking from the flesh, BECAUSE they had been given power and unfortunately, a person must work through and learn what is the mind of the flesh and what is the mind of the spirit.{THEY were speaking with the mouth of the false prophet}

1 John 5


What are we made out of, and HOW are we made in the image of God?


By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?




{He is 3}
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

{We are also 3}
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.



If God gives his two witnesses power, those witnesses are within you, and this is why it is said,'' WOE to those with children and weaning children in those days.''


If and when God gives YOUR two witnesses power, IF you only have a child on milk, then you are not going to understand what you are going through and there is no doubt of what you will become after you have been given power.


You will suddenly know and believe that the spirit of the Lord has come upon you and you will see things about people, you will have dreams, and know things you shouldn't know and it will seem like the universe has opened up to tell you all her secrets.


You will know and truly believe that you are that great supposed prophet and you will make a fool of yourself and everyone around you.

That's what happens when God gives you power and you are a child still on milk.

So now we see prophets from horizon to horizon, everyone and they mama is a prophet and they all know they are the holy prophets, prophetesses, and supposed great sages who only know things from feeling things, reading the tea leaves as it were, predicting earthquakes, and solar storms and all sorts of prophesies one after the other.

Those are people who have actually received a power, but unfortunately, they don't know the plan of going all the way to death because they don't know the plan of the feast days.


But every so often a man will come to the end of the days of his prophesy and he will symbolically go all the way to death and then be given strength and actually meet the Lord.

Can it happen?

Yes.