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Old 08-06-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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I used to enjoy going to mass in the different California Missions.
I went to a Mass where the monks chanted. It was rather interesting. I loved those California Missions, but of course they were built on the backs in Native People who were severely abused, beaten. I didn't realize that at the time.

I suppose black slaves built a lot of the old churches.

Every religion thinks that it is the only true religion. They all have proof for this. I had two Pentecostal friends who used to try to save each other, because they were not going to the same church. They tried to save me too, but I put my foot down.
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:11 PM
 
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I went to a Mass where the monks chanted. It was rather interesting. I loved those California Missions, but of course they were built on the backs in Native People who were severely abused, beaten. I didn't realize that at the time.

I suppose black slaves built a lot of the old churches.

Every religion thinks that it is the only true religion.
They all have proof for this. I had two Pentecostal friends who used to try to save each other, because they were not going to the same church. They tried to save me too, but I put my foot down.
Nah, Episcopalians don't.
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Old 08-08-2017, 04:53 AM
 
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.. and then I went to mass for a while, and the missal is all about Christ, and in a year, they will have gone through the entire bible. I didn't last because I believe in human rights, which I won't get into here,
but I can say that Mass is the most beautiful religious service that there is.
I'm liking you. You are aware of Native Am's, slaves and now human rights, I see so far.
You go girl!

Try a High Mass sometime or the Christmas Mass...lots of pomp and circumstance, very beautiful...
the gold chalices being swung with frankincense...the colorful satin, the bells,
all with the organ and sopranos behind you in the balcony!
Wow.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:34 AM
 
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The obvious question then, is "How is prayer not worship?" When I pray to God, I see that as worship. I'm submitting my whole will to him and I'm recognizing that I'm incapable of doing it on my own, but that I need him.
The next obvious question is this: how to do pray that makes it worship?
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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He warned all for the last over 1950 years--its--THEY who are at fault for not listening. The door is open to all. The start of the tribulation closes that door. Many claim and are told they are followers of Jesus--yet it is not true. Few know what Jesus actually taught--they cant be bothered.
The Jehovah's Witnesses have closed that door many times by predicting the end of the world.

They have preached that other religions do not know their bible, and they used the scripture, This means everlasting life, taking in knowledge. and so you have changed this to mean that everyone must know the bible inside and out, yet even the Jehovah's Witnesses only know the bible as presented in the Watchtower. Other translations of this scripture says:

"This means everlasting life,+ their coming to know you,* the only true God,+ and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."

Of course I don't believe that we have to take in any knowledge, as I believe that we all have immortality, that, were created that way.

You can't really know what Jesus taught or even if he ever existed. His message isn't new, it was taught by Buddha before that, and Buddha learned from other Buddhists and from the Hindu teachings. But what is more, much of what is written in the New Testaments was said of other Christs. It is an old story.
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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So you do not belong to a Religion?
It seems JW's and Evangelicals have one thing in common there.
And you even have something in common with the SDA's in not believing in a literal Hell.
Well, every religion has something right, and the JWs got this one right.

You might wish to read The History of Hell by Alice Turner
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:01 AM
 
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I'm liking you. You are aware of Native Am's, slaves and now human rights, I see so far.
You go girl!

Try a High Mass sometime or the Christmas Mass...lots of pomp and circumstance, very beautiful...
the gold chalices being swung with frankincense...the colorful satin, the bells,
all with the organ and sopranos behind you in the balcony!
Wow.
I like your posts too.

I have never been to high Mass because now that I would be interested in seeing it, I don't stay up late, and it would certainly, at least for me, be in a large church.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Yes.

I don't really understand your question. If I believed the RCC was correct about being the only true church, wouldn't I be a Catholic?
That is the official Roman Catholic position. They believe they are the only true church and the rest of us are not "completed" or "true" or whatever it is that they say Christians. Does that bother you?
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:44 AM
 
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He told you to give sell your possessions in order to follow him too...but it would appear that most of you ignore that one.
No. He really didn't. You can claim that by taking a verse out of context, but that was not a command given to all Christians. It just wasn't.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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I went to a Mass where the monks chanted. It was rather interesting. I loved those California Missions, but of course they were built on the backs in Native People who were severely abused, beaten. I didn't realize that at the time.

I suppose black slaves built a lot of the old churches.

Every religion thinks that it is the only true religion. They all have proof for this. I had two Pentecostal friends who used to try to save each other, because they were not going to the same church. They tried to save me too, but I put my foot down.
That only seems to happen when one Pentecostal organization believes in the Holy Trinity and the other doesn't. Which brings us full circle not to "fullness of truth" but rather to the Catholic book position of whether non Catholics are separated Christian brethren or cultists needing baptism upon joining a Catholic Church
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