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Old 01-26-2008, 12:29 AM
 
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Seriously. I used to sit in a location at work not far from the desk of a Methodist minister's son. He liked to talk about Christianity. He seemed to hold it in a different light and make an off-handed comment about Catholics not being Christian.

I kept it to myself but thought it was so stupid that I couldn't get mad.

To me, any religion whose scriptural works are ONLY and BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament, with the emphasis that your faith is put in practice largely through the New Testament, is a Christian religion. Period.

I'm not a religious expert, but I don't know what to make of religions that profess to be Christian but have OTHER books. I just don't know.

So, are Catholics Christians in your mind?
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:02 AM
 
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Seriously. I used to sit in a location at work not far from the desk of a Methodist minister's son. He liked to talk about Christianity. He seemed to hold it in a different light and make an off-handed comment about Catholics not being Christian.

I kept it to myself but thought it was so stupid that I couldn't get mad.

To me, any religion whose scriptural works are ONLY and BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament, with the emphasis that your faith is put in practice largely through the New Testament, is a Christian religion. Period.

I'm not a religious expert, but I don't know what to make of religions that profess to be Christian but have OTHER books. I just don't know.

So, are Catholics Christians in your mind?
I always thought eater of flesh, drinker of blood?
'''''''''''perhaps receptaple of the spirit? Made manifest? tricky!
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:04 AM
 
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I believe catholics were christians before the other sects.

If it weren't for Martin Luther, the rest of the christians would probably be catholics, too.
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:16 AM
 
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Seriously. I used to sit in a location at work not far from the desk of a Methodist minister's son. He liked to talk about Christianity. He seemed to hold it in a different light and make an off-handed comment about Catholics not being Christian.

I kept it to myself but thought it was so stupid that I couldn't get mad.

To me, any religion whose scriptural works are ONLY and BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament, with the emphasis that your faith is put in practice largely through the New Testament, is a Christian religion. Period.

I'm not a religious expert, but I don't know what to make of religions that profess to be Christian but have OTHER books. I just don't know.

So, are Catholics Christians in your mind?
Yes Catholics are our connection to Peter, Paul and Christ.
They promised, you see?
To carry the spirit of the one forward.
Politics has made of history something nasty.

But the Christ and the promise of us---every Pope and hermit, monk and holy man.

Civilization can be a two edged sword, spirit and reason!

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Old 01-26-2008, 02:22 AM
 
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Default seekers of the truth

i guess we all seek the truth of that ...........infinite finite man
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:42 AM
 
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this is almost an argument in symantics, wouldn't anyone who believes in the "christ" be christian? personaly I was a bit surprised when the encyclopedia didn't define christianity as a sub sect of the nations of islam
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:17 AM
 
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No, not anyone who believes in Christ - a follower of Christ.

Do I believe that there probably may have been a guy named Jesus (who everyone else now calls Christ) who probably wandered around shaking up the Jewish world 2000+ years ago. Sure, seems like its vaguely probable.

Do I read the book and subscribe to the newsletter? No. Thus, I am not a Christian.

Similar for Islam, they acknowledge Jesus, even accept he could be a Christos, but not THE prophet - because that of course was Mohhammed. They follow his teachings, thus ISLAM.

Catholics, who do believe in Christ were the original Christians, however Catholic (= universal) was all that was needed to describe them until the Martin Luther Heresy. Once Martin Luther splintered off (and the splintering kept going) there became Christians + Catholics. Catholics usually being held out as being different.

But in my non-Christian world - Catholics are part of the Christian world view / ideology

then again, I'm not a methodist minister!!
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:13 AM
 
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Catholics were Christians long before the formation and branching out of all the other Christian churches. It's obvious that Christ is at the center of the Catholic faith so by definition of course it's a Christian religion.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:30 AM
 
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It sounds as if the Methodist ministers son is an idiot.
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:03 AM
 
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You know, that is strange. When I visited a methodist church one time with my children, my sons best friends father is the minister there....

I felt the whole atmosphere ther eto be very close to that of a Catholic church, and way.

I did not have a problem with it, nor Catholic.. things.

Now, in Sunday school at the church where I was baptised, it seemed to be a firm belief there that Catholic people were just not 'as good' as So. Baptist people, which is what I am. Well, not as good as the people, but the religion.

I never could understand it. I know there is a different belief system...

i know this, but does it make them any less Christian? I don't think so.

But you know what? I did think that for the longest time. Due to that Sunday school class and its teachings.

Now, I went through a tough time last year, and was drinving down the road talking to my brother. My brother married a Catholic girl, and his children are being raised Catholic.

My family was raised in no religion at all. My brother hating the Lord for taking my mother from us in 2000.

I talked to him about what had happened in my life, and he talked to me, about him, in his.

He had been Baptised.

the things that had happened two days before that day that we talked, left my mind, the tears of hurt and pain turned to tears of such wonderful joy. I had to stop somewhere. I sat in a parking lot talking to him for more than an hour. he had accepted the Lord... He was on his walk.. finally!

Catholic or no... my brother... he took a leap of faith, finally.

I know a lot of Roman Catholic people.. al wonderful people in my book.

Is one better than another.. heck no! We are all HIS children..

Whats that song? Yellow black and white.. all precious in His sight..
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