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So there is not need when children are starving to death? No need when villages are been burned and people beheaded? No need to stop diseases that kill millions of innocent people every year? Some God ya got there!
Eusie's god is very, very special. Kinda like Eusie himself.
God created evil and controls it.
He is able and willing as the need arises.
He is both able and willing as the need arises.
So one should call Him God.
Isa_45:7 Former of light and Creator of darkness,
Maker of good and Creator of evil.
I, Yahweh Elohim, made all of these things."
God brings about evil that good will come.
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So there is not need when children are starving to death? No need when villages are been burned and people beheaded? No need to stop diseases that kill millions of innocent people every year? Some God ya got there!
Even though Paul, the apostle believed it, he still took up collections for those in need. And he had the churches help those in need outside the church.
As for diseases, God creates diseases (they don't come from nowhere you know), and raises up men and women to go through the rigors of finding a solution for them.
As for villages being burned and people beheaded, that is also why God raises up armies to defeat those evil ones.
The tree God planted in the garden east of Eden was the tree of the knowledge of good AND evil. Since Adam and Eve partook of that fruit, we have been learning about the two which is what God deemed wise that we do learn. You see the evil and look at it with a microscope and condemn God. I see the good coming from the evil and praise God for such grand wisdom and love.
Let me share a revelation I had during my time on this planet.
I was brought up a Christian. My mother was a firm believer and took me to church every week without fault. I used to be as firm in my beliefs as her. I prayed and prayed and prayed.
One day my best friend got leukemia. He was a good kid. His parents were good people who sent to church and prayed.
I prayed even more. I got my parents to pray with me, my grandparents, my classmates. We prayed our asses off.
It didn't work. 8 months later I attended his funeral. When I asked the pastor why God allowed it, he said to me that "God worked in mysterious ways" and that Lucas "Had been called to sit next to Jesus".
Strike one. I thought Jesus was an egomaniac.
Sometimes later, Luke's parents lost their business. Then they separated. Then Luke's father got in an accident.
As time went by, I saw more and more good people have all the rotten luck in the world. Bad people got rich, got married, had kids and nothing happened to them.
I prayed and prayed and prayed. It did nothing. Bad luck kept coming to good people.
So I had a revelation. God is either a real dirtbag, seeing his people squirm and enjoying it. Or impotent to stop even the smallest evil.
Not really the type of guy I want to have as a friend.
My conclusion: there is no god. And if there is a god, I don't want anything to do with him.
Since that day, my life has been much easier.
I see this happening so often and it breaks my heart. A person realizes that God doesn't answer prayers and immediately jumps to the conclusion it must be because there is no God. Why must people jump from one extreme to the other. Why not consider a middle-ground: deism?
Deism holds that there is a God who created this universe and all life in it. That's indisputable, from my point of view. No matter how much atheists insist that life evolved on its own, they still cannot get back to how all the right elements came together to form that first single-cell against impossible odds (1 in 10 to the 150th power or some astronomical number) not to mention having to duplicate and replicate itself and divide itself over and over until we have plant and animal kingdoms emerging billions of years later.
Deism also holds that God set natural laws in motion to govern this world and universe, and thus prayer is not going to have any effect whatsoever in outcome of the situation being prayed for. Little children will continue to be murdered and raped and mangled by explosions in Syria and die of malnutrition in Africa because it's all just part of the natural law of survival of the fittest and man's evil and immoral actions. I can accept all this, cruel as it all sounds and still believe with no problem that at the very beginning of the Big Bang there was a higher power putting it all into motion.
This way I satisfy my senses that something higher than nature is behind it all while at the same time realizing that horrors such as those I've described are going to go on forever because it's just part of the way God designed things. God plays NO part in this world's activities; man is responsible for everything he does and reaps the whirlwind, including extinction if he makes the wrong choices.
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I don't get my faith from either Persia or Rome. So what's your point?
Then why did you say:
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It makes sense to those who are chosen.
When I asked you to explain yourself?
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