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Originally Posted by pneuma
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Oh boy, let see, does God create by His word? Yes or no
Does not scripture tell us Gods word is a two edged sword and that sword is used for division?
You do the math.
Your Being deliberately obtuse again I see, seems you do that when you get stuck on a subject. Cut down is just a form of division or separation.
God did NOT create evil E, those Jesus revealed the Father to state God works no evil and God thinks no evil. So as God does not work or think evil how in the world did God create evil? I guess He must have created evil without thinking about it.
So evil is created out of God, through Him and for Him. Eek gad the madness.
You can't believe both E because what they state is contrary one to the other. And it is obvious you do not see where Jesus and the NT writers corrected the view of God given in the OT.
You can't have it both ways E, but I know you will try.
E speaking: God creates evil, but does so without getting his hands dirty, God uses hit men as it were and God does not think about the evil that He does because God does not think evil.
E remember the story of Moloch? And how the children of Israel were sacrificing their children to Moloch?
What did God say about that evil? Did He not say that His people were doing something that never entered His mind?
So explain how that evil that never entered Gods mind came out of and through God and will return back to God.
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Then tell me how the tree of the knowledge of good and evil got planted in the middle of the garden? Did God plant it? Did it slip in unawares? And since it is the knowledge of good and evil, who created the good and the evil? If not God, then who? Did the evil slip into God's universe without His knowledge? Did it catch Him by surprise? If that is so, what guarantee do we have that it will ever be done away?
The story of Molech is that it never entered His heart for them to do that.
God's heart, His feelings were not in what they were doing and He never gave it as part of their law to do that. There is a difference between the heart, the seat of feelings and the mind.
"NEITHER CAME IT INTO MY MIND"
THIS passage in Jeremiah 32:35 has been used as an argument to prove that all is not out of God. As it
is a typical example of how discordant translations and disqualified minds brazenly oppose God's express
declarations, we will point out a few facts for the consideration of those who think that they can find a
foundation for their unbelief in some obscure corner of God's Word. In both statements God is dealing
with His treatment of Israel, but one is a closing summary, and is given as a great, all embracing truth. In
the other God is expostulating with them for their abominations in causing their sons and daughters to
pass to Molech, which, He says, did not ascend on His heart, not His mind. Those who do not know what
the heart is, immediately make the false inference that God does nothing except as His heart is in it. In
the very beginning it grieved Him at His heart that He made man (Gen.6:6). Does this prove that He did
not make man? Does anyone imagine that God's
heart is in any of the evil and sin in the world? Let
anyone study the usage of the word heart and he will see that it is quite possible for God, as for us, to
do things which are not on the heart.
No wonder those who bring up such a passage revolt at the thought of God's deity! But there is little
excuse for such ignorance, for God is expressly said to do things far more terrible than that done by the
Israelites in Hinnom. The prophets are full of it. If we could see at a glance all the suffering which He
expressly claims as due to His hand at one siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar alone, our hearts
would be sick. Yet His heart is infinitely more sensitive than ours. What shall we say? That He did not
bring these things on them, because they did not come on His heart? God condescends to speak to us as
if He were a man, as in this case, in order that we may be able to enter into His feelings. Our hearts are
often grieved by what we must do. So His heart is not in the evil which He does. It was not in the
abomination of idolatrous Judah, yet in Ezekiel 20:26 He expressly declares of this very sin, "I am defiling
them in their gifts, in causing to pass all who open up the womb." May God keep us from the modern
abomination of propping our unbelief on a distortion of His holy Word! That certainly grieves His heart!
(A. E. Knoch, Unsearchable Riches).