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Old 09-22-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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It's baffling why anyone in the 21st Century would use the bible a their source for knowledge and truth.
It is baffling why anyone in the 21st Century would not use the Bible as their source for knowledge and truth.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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It is baffling why anyone in the 21st Century would not use the Bible as their source for knowledge and truth.
I can tell you. They do for the same reason that Israel ignored the warnings of Isaiah and the other prophets. They didn't want to do what God said.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Therein lies the problem. They have no problem saying the people back then were not crazy, they were just obeying God. Yet if the same God commanded someone to go kill their child today, those same people would say they were just crazy, and not a real Christian. What is the difference?

My question to people like Vizio is simple. Would you kill your children if god commanded it? Would you kill your neighbor? Would you bomb a country? And how would you know it was really God?
Those who believe absurdities will commit atrocities: Voltaire
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Those who believe absurdities will commit atrocities: Voltaire
Such as the atheist states of Russia killing off millions of its own people or Pol Pot or Communist China.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: USA
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I can tell you. They do for the same reason that Israel ignored the warnings of Isaiah and the other prophets. They didn't want to do what God said.
Kids, this is what authoritarianism looks like: obey or else.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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Kids, this is what authoritarianism looks like: obey or else.
Or, in the case of Christianity, God saves those that don't obey. He's that good. Even people that hate him and rebel against him are given mercy.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Or, in the case of Christianity, God saves those that don't obey. He's that good. Even people that hate him and rebel against him are given mercy.
Amen to that Vizio!
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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Or, in the case of Christianity, God saves those that don't obey. He's that good. Even people that hate him and rebel against him are given mercy.
Well. Your dictator god is willing to give "mercy" to non-believing scum like myself. I feel SO much better now.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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Such as the atheist states of Russia killing off millions of its own people or Pol Pot or Communist China.

Or Germany in the last century or the killings of Native Americans in the previous two centuries or ethnic cleansing of the Muslims in the former Yugoslavia all by Christians. The examples you provided were all totalarism countries which there are examples from both left and right, religious and non religious, modern and ancient. The desire to control all people lead to destroying those who are precived as any threat to that power and has nothing to do with either a religion or lack thereof or a left right political view so is meaningless in this topic because of that. If we have to be stuck with Pol Pot than you have to get Hitler, neither are examples of anything other than ruthless people in control and wishing to have total control.

As far as knowledge from the Bible, if I want to know anything about geology, the origin of the landscape, how to fix my truck, the best way to cook a chicken, what to do if certain symptons show up with my grandchildren, which breed of dog would suit me best, the ecology of the rainforest, how to vote in the next election the Bible would not be the place to go. The Bible may be the source for your worldview but it is really not the source of knowledge. You may get your wisdom from it but not most of your knowledge unless all you know is Bibical stuff. Which is why you are so often wrong when you bring up anything about science because you do not seem to even go to a science text to see what science thinks about a subject.

If I go in for bypass surgery I hope the doctors are not wondering if they should use the OT or the NT in deciding how to do it.
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Old 09-22-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: USA
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If I go in for bypass surgery I hope the doctors are not wondering if they should use the OT or the NT in deciding how to do it.
Don't have a heart attack in Mississippi.
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