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So you are moving your own goal posts. You were harping on about them being unnatural, I ask you about that word, and you run away from it. Because you know as well as I do that "unnatural" is not a synonym for bad or wrong. You just use the words because you have no other arguments to make.
Homosexuality is not harmful either. Promiscuity and anal sex are risky things, sure, but they are also not synonyms for homosexuality. Like JeffBase40 you complain about those things while PRETENDING you are complaining about homosexuality.
So you are moving your own goal posts. You were harping on about them being unnatural, I ask you about that word, and you run away from it. Because you know as well as I do that "unnatural" is not a synonym for bad or wrong. You just use the words because you have no other arguments to make.
Homosexuality is not harmful either. Promiscuity and anal sex are risky things, sure, but they are also not synonyms for homosexuality. Like JeffBase40 you complain about those things while PRETENDING you are complaining about homosexuality.
I don't believe I used the words "bad" or "wrong". Unnatural, yes.
I don't believe I used the words "bad" or "wrong". Unnatural, yes.
Only it isn't unnatural. It is found all over the animal kingdom. Typing on your computer and being on this forum is unnatural, does that make it wrong, or somehow bad?
Also, you do realize, as many have already tried to tell you and Jeff, that not only homosexuals engage in anal sex right? Many heterosexual couples do that very thing. Do you have a problem with that? What about lesbians? What "harm" are they bringing themselves? What about the gay men who do not engage in anal sex? Are you against that as well?
Only it isn't unnatural. It is found all over the animal kingdom. Typing on your computer and being on this forum is unnatural, does that make it wrong, or somehow bad?
Also, you do realize, as many have already tried to tell you and Jeff, that not only homosexuals engage in anal sex right? Many heterosexual couples do that very thing. Do you have a problem with that? What about lesbians? What "harm" are they bringing themselves? What about the gay men who do not engage in anal sex? Are you against that as well?
Using a computer is not unnatural. Same sex is unnatural.
Using a computer is not unnatural. Same sex is unnatural.
Anal sex is always harmful.
Could you please explain the requirements for something to be unnatural to you? What process do you go through to determine if something is natural or not?
I'm starting to think the process is:
Is it same sex? If yes it's unnatural. If no it's natural.
Could you please explain the requirements for something to be unnatural to you? What process do you go through to determine if something is natural or not?
I'm starting to think the process is:
Is it same sex? If yes it's unnatural. If no it's natural.
Using a computer is not unnatural. Same sex is unnatural.
Anal sex is always harmful.
Here are the top seven arguments--and the counter argument--that same sex sex is unnatural:
1. Only humans engage in same-sex relationships, so it must be unnatural. False. Over 1000 species have been shown to engage in same-sex mating and pair-bonding.
2. Reproduction is the purpose of sex; same-sex intercourse cannot produce offspring; ergo, homosexuality is unnatural.
Based on an incorrect assumption. While reproduction is one function of sexual intercourse, it is far from the only one.Many animal species, including humans, engage in non-reproductive sexual behaviour. Among humans, the benefits of regular sexual intercourse are myriad. Various studies have found that it: improves one’s ability to deal with stress; lowers blood pressure; boosts antibody production; burns calories; reduces the chance of a heart attack; improves self-esteem; deepens intimacy; builds trust; etc. etc.
(But you don't want homosexuals to enjoy the myriad benefits of sex)
3. Homosexuality is an evolutionary dead-end, and would therefore not occur naturally.
False. First, a lot of genetic conditions are evolutionary dead-ends, as they cause either death in childhood or infertility. But no one denies the existence of such conditions. Natural selection does not mean that a reproductively negative trait will be eliminated in the gene pool, but only that it will not typically be selected—and so will remain relatively uncommon.
4.Since there is no proof of a gay gene, people are not born that way.
Disingenuous. This intentionally ignores that very few inherited conditions are the result of a single gene, that there are obviously epigenetic* factors at play in the development of a person’s sexuality, and that intrauterine hormones have also been shown to affect sexual orientation, gender identity, and sexual expression. Autism is also not associated with a single gene, but we’d hardly claim that it is not biological, or that children choose to be autistic.
5. Homosexuality is caused by childhood abuse, parental neglect or emotional distance, and other factors of upbringing, not biological factors.
False. Numerous scientific studies have proven this is simply not true. There is absolutely no reason to blame parents for their child’s sexual orientation. Indeed, there is no reason to “blame” anyone.
6. Sexual orientation can be changed by ex-gay therapy, so it’s not a permanent state.
False. People have been trying for at least 150 years to find techniques to change sexual orientation. While sometimes, if rarely, such technique result in changes of behavior, none result in a change of orientation. Even people who have benefited from the ex-gay movement admit it does not change orientation. As Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International (the once preeminent but now defunct ex-gay therapy program), put it in 2012, “The majority of people that I have met, and I would say the majority meaning 99.9% of them, have not experienced a change in their orientation … .”
7. If everyone were gay, the human species would die out.
That’s true. And … ? Seriously. If everyone had any number of inherited conditions the human species would die out. Are we going to judge everyone with those conditions as being sinful and/or unnatural? We have over 7 billion humans on this planet. It’s okay if a few members of the species are incapable of or disinterested in pairing up with a member of the opposite sex to produce babies. That’s also ignoring the fact that we have artificial insemination readily available.
(material by Lynette Cowper who is a Christian who is active in her church’s worship and drama ministries. As a parent of two children, one on the LGBTQIA spectrum and one on the autism spectrum, she has a deep passion toward justice for those society too often sees as outsiders.)
jimmie, you won't change your mind about this, because that would be admitting to bigotry, so God has hardened your heart and blinded your eyes. While I think He is willing to take you in--I also think you're going to have to climb out of the grave you've dug for yourself all by yourself.
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existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial ):
a natural bridge.
Designing and using a tool is not unnatural.
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