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Biblical definition: PAGANS (Gk. éthnē “Gentiles”).* At 1 Cor. 5:1; 10:20 a designation for non-Christian Gentiles in contrast to the Christian Gentiles addressed by Paul (so RSV, NIV; KJV “Gentiles”).
Myers, A. C. (1987). In The Eerdmans Bible dictionary (pp. 788–789). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
So Christianity is not responsible for child abuse. It's sinful people doing what sinful people do. Did I suggest that all non-Christians beat their kids? Of course not. I've never made such a statement. Nor am I suggesting that now.
That is correct - in the oily fashion of your go-to-god-guru - you did not say "all" non-Christians beat their kids.
You said "ONLY" non-Christians - aka "pagans" - beat their kids.
So, in the world according to Viz, only Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Wiccans, Druids etc. beat their kids.
Biblical definition: PAGANS (Gk. éthnē “Gentiles”).* At 1 Cor. 5:1; 10:20 a designation for non-Christian Gentiles in contrast to the Christian Gentiles addressed by Paul (so RSV, NIV; KJV “Gentiles”).
Myers, A. C. (1987). In The Eerdmans Bible dictionary (pp. 788–789). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
So Christianity is not responsible for child abuse. It's sinful people doing what sinful people do. Did I suggest that all non-Christians beat their kids? Of course not. I've never made such a statement. Nor am I suggesting that now.
Try really, really hard....and scroll back. I changed that post.
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Biblical definition: PAGANS (Gk. éthnē “Gentiles”).* At 1 Cor. 5:1; 10:20 a designation for non-Christian Gentiles in contrast to the Christian Gentiles addressed by Paul (so RSV, NIV; KJV “Gentiles”).
Myers, A. C. (1987). In The Eerdmans Bible dictionary (pp. 788–789). Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.
So Christianity is not responsible for child abuse. It's sinful people doing what sinful people do. Did I suggest that all non-Christians beat their kids? Of course not. I've never made such a statement. Nor am I suggesting that now.
Actually, you have the vernacular definition of pagan.
The ORIGINAL people known as 'pagans' comes from the term which stems from the Latin paganus translated loosely along the lines of "country dweller" or "rustic"; thus it was initially a word describing a person of locality rather than a religion. However, because of its usage in ancient texts, medieval authors mistakenly believed it referenced a religious sect and thereby gave it the corresponding connotation. In actuality, there was a different word used to describe the "pagans" as they are called today, and that word too stemmed first and foremost from the location of the religious supporters.
According to scholar Peter Brown of Princeton University, "Hellene" was initially utilized in place of "paganism". "Hellene" was a reference to Ἕλλην (Hellas), the native ancient Greek name for what is now called Greece. Brown explains that when Christianity started making appearances in the eastern communities, "Hellene" was used to differentiate the non-Christians from the Christians. Those from Hellas tended to remain faithful to the old religions, but with the strife between Judaism and Christianity beginning, the Jewish faction needed to ensure they were not incorrectly associated with them. As they were not from Greece, "Hellene" became the perfect title.
If you would have read Tom Harpur's book, "The Pagan Christ", you would know this already. Harpur has a Doctorate in Divinity, and an ordained Anglican priest.
Just some of the recent stories. It makes my heart bleed and puts tears in my eyes the abuse that the religious think is righteous. There is not a hell hot enough or painful enough for these abusers. All of them.
Any adult raising their hand, or an object, and striking a child.
Yelling in anger.
Spanking
Cursing.
Corporal punishment.
Your addiction to---- name it.
Punishment depriving a child of shelter, food, and contact with light.
Depriving a child from their family when the marriage is dissolved. You are still family.
Not making children your priority. They are the result of a choice you made. They count on you to treat them with love and keep them safe.
Disowning, shunning, or removing your love when your LGBTQ child comes out.
I know plenty of Christians who justify beating their children. They use the bible.
Your opinion is not the consensus. I'm sorry to tell you that. By your definition, I was abused. My sisters were, also. My dad, my grandparents, my great-grandparents, etc were all abused. Thankfully though, my parents did believe in discipline, and they did discipline us. They never abused us. And, incidentally, they were not Christians.
Your opinion is not the consensus. I'm sorry to tell you that. By your definition, I was abused. My sisters were, also. My dad, my grandparents, my great-grandparents, etc were all abused. Thankfully though, my parents did believe in discipline, and they did discipline us. They never abused us. And, incidentally, they were not Christians.
And? Thankfully we have managed to raise ours without abusing them. They are simply wonderful human beings. They are loving, very funny, creative, professionals.
I have never needed a consensus about child abuse. I am sorry you were abused, and it has been generational abuse. What is most sad is victims of such abuse often praise their abusers.
Their job was to protect you and teach you, not hit you when they are angry.
You said you were Catholic when you were younger, yes?
The good thing is you can be the generation in your family that does not abuse their children. It is a matter of becoming smart enough to teach the lesson without the smacking around. It takes patience, and continuity.
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