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I did not think you were, Richard. Sorry if my written tone came over that way.
As for your request, you may have to get that from someone like Whoppers. What I can do, is refer you to the Revised Standard Version of the Bible which, if I am not mistaken, tries to hold true to the older tradition of this passage.
I did not think you were, Richard. Sorry if my written tone came over that way.
As for your request, you may have to get that from someone like Whoppers. What I can do, is refer you to the Revised Standard Version of the Bible which, if I am not mistaken, tries to hold true to the older tradition of this passage.
Thanks...It would be nice to actually read the Hebrew of the DSS in order to see for myself...I wonder if what we see in the TNK with Israel constantly going off the MONO-rail and their behavior being recorded as a matter of fact ties in with the polytheistic evidence...
A little surprised we have not brought up the I Book of Enoch as yet (well I did earlier). While not considered an "inspired" book, nor can it be found in the Christian [exception: Ethiopian] or Hebrew canons, the book was rather very popular in the Jewish world before, throughout and after the time Jesus is alleged to have lived. It is somewhat quoted and alluded to in other New Testament writings. Some suspect that it lost its prominence in the Jewish community as it moved to a more rigid form of monotheism because it's implication that God had sons or that angels could have sex, something also rejected by many Christians. Interestingly, however, chapter 6 of the book is eerily similar to that of Genesis 6, but gives far more details to the stated story than what is found in the extremely condensed and "out of the blue" version in Genesis.
"And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children."
~ I Enoch 6:1-3
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
A little surprised we have not brought up the I Book of Enoch as yet (well I did earlier). While not considered an "inspired" book, nor can it be found in the Christian [exception: Ethiopian] or Hebrew canons, the book was rather very popular in the Jewish world before, throughout and after the time Jesus is alleged to have lived. It is somewhat quoted and alluded to in other New Testament writings. Some suspect that it lost its prominence in the Jewish community as it moved to a more rigid form of monotheism because it's implication that God had sons or that angels could have sex, something also rejected by many Christians. Interestingly, however, chapter 6 of the book is eerily similar to that of Genesis 6, but gives far more details to the stated story than what is found in the extremely condensed and "out of the blue" version in Genesis.
"And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children."
~ I Enoch 6:1-3
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
~ Genesis 6:1-2
How do you know the book of Enoch you have is the one that may have been around at the time of Jesus?
How do you know the book of Enoch you have is the one that may have been around at the time of Jesus?
How do you know that Gospels Matthew and John were actually written by the apostles Matthew and John? How do you know that any of the words directly attributed to Jesus himself as indicated in the Gospels decades after Jesus was executed were actually spoken by Jesus? It's all kind of a crap shoot, isn't it!
How do you know the book of Enoch you have is the one that may have been around at the time of Jesus?
Fragments of the book, if not entire copies, were found along with the Dead Sea scrolls which predates the time of Jesus. Can I tell you that every single word in the copies we have today (only extant in Ethiopian Ge'ez) match older full Hebrew copies we don't have today? No. But it appears scholars agree the book was/is legit. Whether one agrees with it doctrinal content or not, that is another story, but archaeology seems to confirm the book has been around for quite some time and before and after the time of Jesus.
How do you know that Gospels Matthew and John were actually written by the apostles Matthew and John? How do you know that any of the words directly attributed to Jesus himself as indicated in the Gospels decades after Jesus was executed were actually spoken by Jesus? It's all kind of a crap shoot, isn't it!
How do you know that Gospels Matthew and John were actually written by the apostles Matthew and John? How do you know that any of the words directly attributed to Jesus himself as indicated in the Gospels decades after Jesus was executed were actually spoken by Jesus? It's all kind of a crap shoot, isn't it!
We've got even better manuscripts of the Book of Mormon. And yet you are not a Mormon. Why?
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