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Another thing that is "common knowledge": Young chicks are typically "hot", and old chicks are not.
I suspect that you are overly accustomed to objectifying women as slabs of meat with certain proportions to understand how I as a 58 year old can find my 55 year old wife attractive. It just becomes less about some sort of Madison Avenue fantasy and more about things like love, loyalty, mutual respect and character. Sounds cheesy to you no doubt, but the physical aspects are only a part of it, and not the most important part -- and certainly not the most lasting.
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I suspect that you are overly accustomed to objectifying women as slabs of meat with certain proportions to understand how I as a 58 year old can find my 55 year old wife attractive. It just becomes less about some sort of Madison Avenue fantasy and more about things like love, loyalty, mutual respect and character. Sounds cheesy to you no doubt, but the physical aspects are only a part of it, and not the most important part -- and certainly not the most lasting.
Exactly.
A woman 55-65 can be extremely sexy, sensual and intimate. I have no idea of those over 65, as I have never dated them. Although I can appreciate the sexiness of the 28 year old, I have no desire to go to bed with her. She doesn't have enough sensual experience.
What would make you think something so ignorant as, I got "all my education from television commercials"? Or that anybody does?
Some things are just such common knowledge that they are even found in them. Like what you were telling about ED. Another thing that is "common knowledge": Young chicks are typically "hot", and old chicks are not. .
What would may me state this fact? Could it be the following?
This is common knowledge. All one has to do is watch television and see the endless ads for ED drugs to know it.
I would say this common knowledge of yours only extends to narcissistic, self-centered, and selfish men. Thankfully, they are easy to avoid in the real world. On line? Not so much. hahahahaha
I suspect that you are overly accustomed to objectifying women as slabs of meat with certain proportions to understand how I as a 58 year old can find my 55 year old wife attractive. It just becomes less about some sort of Madison Avenue fantasy and more about things like love, loyalty, mutual respect and character. Sounds cheesy to you no doubt, but the physical aspects are only a part of it, and not the most important part -- and certainly not the most lasting.
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Exactly.
A woman 55-65 can be extremely sexy, sensual and intimate. I have no idea of those over 65, as I have never dated them. Although I can appreciate the sexiness of the 28 year old, I have no desire to go to bed with her. She doesn't have enough sensual experience.
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What would may me state this fact? Could it be the following?
This is common knowledge. All one has to do is watch television and see the endless ads for ED drugs to know it.
I would say this common knowledge of yours only extends to narcissistic, self-centered, and selfish men. Thankfully, they are easy to avoid in the real world. On line? Not so much. hahahahaha
We had some on this board get away from the main issue in the OP and start discussing when men were purported to be in their "sexual prime" relative to when it is claimed women are.
I weighed in on it with my hypothesis that the "prime" isn't actually that skewed, it just seems that way...because women are more emotional in what stimulates them sexually, compared to men who function sexually along more physical lines. The men who are in touch with their "feminine side" notwithstanding.
Though some find it offensive....my 30 years in the pornography industry is basically the "experiment" I carried out to prove my statements.
There may be a few that find 55 to 65 years old females "extremely sexy"...but I know for a FACT, if I were to staff my stripclub with women that age (even finding the most attractive I could), the majority of my patrons (that are middle aged men) would not attend any more and I would be out of business in a couple months.
Porn...the MOST CONSUMED elective product there is...thrives mostly on what men are sexually attracted to. There is a fetish market for the older, obese, dwarf, etc...but this not what is PROVED by the market (the largest market for ANY elective product) is desired as respects the most popular representation of what is sexually desireable...which is young, tight, beautiful, hot, females.
Criticize that all you want...the slam is against the reality of the way of the world.
I didn't make it that way...I just know it is, and that has been reinforced every day for 30 years. The day it is different...is the day I use geriatric models, actresses, and dancers. Believe me...you will never see that day. But don't worry, I understand there are those outside of the "mainstream", and I produce "product" for you too. I wouldn't want you to feel "disenfranchised"...or lose any opportunity to turn YOUR money into MY money.
I suspect that you are overly accustomed to objectifying women as slabs of meat with certain proportions to understand how I as a 58 year old can find my 55 year old wife attractive. It just becomes less about some sort of Madison Avenue fantasy and more about things like love, loyalty, mutual respect and character. Sounds cheesy to you no doubt, but the physical aspects are only a part of it, and not the most important part -- and certainly not the most lasting.
"I" don't objectify women. I work together with them...and I love them.
It could be argued my market does though. And that would be the LARGEST MARKET for any elective product there is...and, I bet, includes YOU.
I fully understand that you find mid 50s women attractive (especially your wife, who I'm sure you love), lots of guys do. Just not the vast majority.
And that was my point. Take the guy purported to be "past his prime" and takes ED drugs to make love to his similar aged wife....and figure out a way to run his wife back 35 years to when she was was young and hot...and see how "past his prime" he acts, or necessitating ED meds to be "ready".
As a man who has been all ages up to 64, I've loved girls/women all along my life's way.
In just about every way imaginable.
(And maybe one or two you'd rather not.)
I must say that now, in the sunset of my years, I find most women under the age of 40 largely uninteresting, albeit superficially attractive. I admire them as I would a piece of art - politely and from a distance.
But the woman I want to hold has grey in her hair (visible or not - her choice - duh) a spring in her step and a twinkle in her eye. A woman unafraid to laugh. A woman who can find pleasure in the myriad small, free things that life has to offer.
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As a man who has been all ages up to 64, I've loved girls/women all along my life's way.
In just about every way imaginable.
(And maybe one or two you'd rather not.)
I must say that now, in the sunset of my years, I find most women under the age of 40 largely uninteresting, albeit superficially attractive. I admire them as I would a piece of art - politely and from a distance.
But the woman I want to hold has grey in her hair (visible or not - her choice - duh) a spring in her step and a twinkle in her eye. A woman unafraid to laugh. A woman who can find pleasure in the myriad small, free things that life has to offer.
Yup.. I think you and I were born in the same year.
I had a 3 year live-in relationship with a woman 16 years younger than me. Bugged the hell out of my son-in-law as she was only 6 years older than him.
In the end, there was just too much difference. You and I know exactly where we were when Kennedy got shot, and Kent State still resonates. Kennedy she knew about, but had never heard of Kent State; she was just 3 at that time. And so on and so forth. We had a good relationship in many ways, but the differences showed up more and more.
We split amicably, I am still friends, and went to her wedding last year. No regrets, but I also would never date someone that much younger again.
As a man who has been all ages up to 64, I've loved girls/women all along my life's way.
In just about every way imaginable.
(And maybe one or two you'd rather not.)
I must say that now, in the sunset of my years, I find most women under the age of 40 largely uninteresting, albeit superficially attractive. I admire them as I would a piece of art - politely and from a distance.
But the woman I want to hold has grey in her hair (visible or not - her choice - duh) a spring in her step and a twinkle in her eye. A woman unafraid to laugh. A woman who can find pleasure in the myriad small, free things that life has to offer.
Well written TD...as usual.
Maybe I missed sumthin. Help me out.
When they were noting the difference in "the prime" of men, compared to that of women...I coulda sworn the discussion was about "sexual prime"...not "prime at finding pleasure in the small, free things life has to offer".
That is why I was addressing it from the standpoint i did. But I could be mistaken.
Yup.. I think you and I were born in the same year.
I had a 3 year live-in relationship with a woman 16 years younger than me. Bugged the hell out of my son-in-law as she was only 6 years older than him.
In the end, there was just too much difference. You and I know exactly where we were when Kennedy got shot, and Kent State still resonates. Kennedy she knew about, but had never heard of Kent State; she was just 3 at that time. And so on and so forth. We had a good relationship in many ways, but the differences showed up more and more.
We split amicably, I am still friends, and went to her wedding last year. No regrets, but I also would never date someone that much younger again.
Thaaaaaaat's what I have been missin'!!
To you and the other Methuselah dudes on this board...50 yr olds are "young stuff"!!
Thaaaaaaat's what I have been missin'!!
To you and the other Methuselah dudes on this board...50 yr olds are "young stuff"!!
A guy who comes to a strip club or a bar or one of our handful of legal brothels to have one night stands is a different market entirely than someone who wants to forge a lasting AND meaningful relationship. The latter is arguably the province of dating services.
There is nothing inherently wrong with a one night stand but I have never sought them out because I don't even know how to enjoy sexuality on that level. It feels superficial and tawdry to me and for that reason would cost me more emotionally and psychologically than it would provide. If you just want sexual release you don't really need a woman's help for that ;-)
The other thing ... and I think a surprising number of guys are this way ... I pair bond / become invested too quickly, and nothing facilitates that like sex. I can't treat it as "slam-bam-thank you ma'am". And I suspect that even fewer women are capable of that than men. Hence the "friends first" concept that so many at least in theory adhere to.
It's rather like gambling. I have nothing against gambling but honestly don't think people who practice it are truly enjoying it. I used to live down the road from a casino and every time I walked through there it was just rows of people robotically pulling levers. They seemed almost bored. I see hook-up environments as the casinos of sexuality. It pulls the levers but ultimately is depersonalizing and depressing to me.
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