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Old 11-01-2015, 03:11 PM
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I too found it rambling and not sure what he was trying to say.
I rarely know what he is saying.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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I've been unable to find an online translator to go from deadwood to English.
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:27 PM
 
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Let me break it down for you gentlement;

What I really find amusing:

a) is not that they say that there was a flood

b) or that God put a bow in the cloud (as a promise that the earth will never be covered under water

WHAT I FIND AMUSING [it] is the way scientist believe that bow was rainbow.


And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: GENESIS 9:14


When scientist attempt to reprove the scriptures with references to the Flood of Noah, one of their arguments is based upon the presumption that the Bible says that God placed a rainbow in the cloud. I find that funny.

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Old 11-01-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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So what I find funny is how those who dispute the flood commonly use the argument that rainbows don't come from the clouds but result from the visible light passing through the drops of rain falling from the clouds. Thus if interprets the passage differently those who dispute the scriptures will still claim that the scriptures mean rainbow. That I find funny.
What do you think it means? I was taught that it was a rainbow, is there some other sort of bow you see in the clouds?

-NoCapo
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:27 PM
 
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What do you think it means? I was taught that it was a rainbow, is there some other sort of bow you see in the clouds?

-NoCapo
So you do acknowledge that you consider the bow means a rainbow or you simply saying that you were taught it was a rainbow?

The passage refers to "a 'cloud' being brought over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:"

In regards to your question regarding the bow in the clouds, by the use of the word clouds are referring unto a visible mass of condensed water vapor floating in the atmosphere? If not, could you clarify your meaning.
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:40 PM
 
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"...and they cried before him, Bow the knee:" Genesis 41:43
"... and bow thine ear to my understanding:" Proverbs 5:1
"Bow thy heavens, O LORD, ...": Ps 144:5

From the use of the term 'bow' in as referenced from other scriptures, would you consider the possibility that there term implied "bend or bent, or having a curve shape?

So when he brings that cloud over the earth, that the bend or curvature shall be seen in that "cloud".

The reason I ask for the clarification of the term 'cloud' is due to the the change of definitions by science which no longer holds that the mass of condensed water vapor in the atmosphere is no longer considered as a cloud.

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Old 11-01-2015, 09:44 PM
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"...and they cried before him, Bow the knee:" Genesis 41:43
"... and bow thine ear to my understanding:" Proverbs 5:1
"Bow thy heavens, O LORD, ...": Ps 144:5

From the use of the term 'bow' in as referenced from other scriptures, would you consider the possibility that there term implied "bend or bent, or having a curve shape?
You mean, bent like a rainbow?

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Old 11-01-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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"...and they cried before him, Bow the knee:" Genesis 41:43
"... and bow thine ear to my understanding:" Proverbs 5:1
"Bow thy heavens, O LORD, ...": Ps 144:5

From the use of the term 'bow' in as referenced from other scriptures, would you consider the possibility that there term implied "bend or bent, or having a curve shape?
You do know the difference between "bow" the verb and "bow" the noun, right?
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:48 PM
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You do know the difference between "bow" the verb and "bow" the noun, right?
I'm thinking -- not.
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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Let me break it down for you gentlement;

What I really find amusing:

a) is not that they say that there was a flood

b) or that God put a bow in the cloud (as a promise that the earth will never be covered under water

WHAT I FIND AMUSING [it] is the way scientist believe that bow was rainbow.


And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: GENESIS 9:14


When scientist attempt to reprove the scriptures with references to the Flood of Noah, one of their arguments is based upon the presumption that the Bible says that God placed a rainbow in the cloud. I find that funny.
It isn't scientists by any means who claim that god put a rainbow in the sky; most of them don't believe the legend in the first place. Rather, it is every Christian children's story book and every Sunday School class I ever attended as a Christian. I NEVER ONCE in roughly 30 years as a practicing Christian heard a pastor or Bible teacher suggest that it was anything other than an actual rainbow.

So far as I know you are the only human being who has performed this particular circumlocution, and without even offering any exegesis, much less actual evidence, in support of it. Or perhaps you sit under a pastor who has this private understanding of the matter. Or maybe there is a sect that teaches it that I haven't heard of. But in no universe I've ever visited could you palm this notion off as either mainstream accepted Christian teaching or as anything that science teaches.

What science concludes from the available evidence is that there is no evidence of a worldwide flood, nor is such a flood as described in the Bible even physically possible. There isn't enough water on the planet to cover the entire surface of the earth to the described depth and even if there were that much water there is no mechanism by which that water could have receded in the time it supposedly did. And that is only the beginning of the issues with the flood story.
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