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Yeah, I know, his case isn't rational and/or logical.
And you dudes, et al, actually spend considerable amounts of time and effort arguing with these Fundie Bible Literalists. I find that to be informative.
I spend a lot of time doing that, too. A literal and fundamentalist view of the bible -- or perhaps any "holy" book -- is potentially harmful or dangerous, in my opinion. It's worth the time and effort to argue against.
Noah didn't have a wicked heart. God before the Flood saw mankind has been completely rotten in their heart. That doesn't mean Noah was incapable of sin or his children as well. Nimrod is usually considered to be the first descendant who was wicked and chose to rebel against God. He wanted to created a world empire.
The towel of Babel was built after him which makes total sense. The tower was basically a middle finger to God and also probably fueled by people's desire to have a safe haven if God decided to flood the earth again. They could just keep climbing higher and higher in the tower to escape the flood wars.
So in essence, NOAH did indeed have a WICKED HEART and was WICKED by nature, just like the people who drowned in the flood...
They were before Noah and the flood? The suggestion was that the world was WICKED so god save Noah (who was NOT wicked) from the flood, yet when the flood was over, wickedness still returned to the earth, so what was the purpose for god to gave flooded the earth and destroyed innocent people??
Noah didn't have a wicked heart. God before the Flood saw mankind has been completely rotten in their heart. That doesn't mean Noah was incapable of sin or his children as well. Nimrod is usually considered to be the first descendant who was wicked and chose to rebel against God. He wanted to created a world empire.
Okay. So Noah didn't have a "wicked heart."
Yet people ended up wicked.
So just how did that happen again...
Renaming the capacity to do things that infuriate Biblegod doesn't mean one isn't infuriating Biblegod. Biblegod is still going to be infuriated. OBVIOUSLY if only Noah, his sons and their wives were left alive (per the story) following the flood then THEY were passing down wickedness...er, the "capacity to sin". God didn't figure out that was what was going to happen?
So Nimrod was "the first descendant" to have "a wicked heart." He is still a descendant. Which leads us back to...yup.
I am leaving off commenting on the Tower of Babel, er...vision.
They were before Noah and the flood? The suggestion was that the world was WICKED so god save Noah (who was NOT wicked) from the flood, yet when the flood was over, wickedness still returned to the earth, so what was the purpose for god to gave flooded the earth and destroyed innocent people??
But but but we are sinners today due to Adam and Eve ate the apple so would not the wickness after the flood be a result of what happened before the flood? That seems as logical as babies born today are sinful or potentially sinful due to the apple eating.
Some of the stories just do not make sense when looked at from a non believer's point of view.
Yea, but Noah and clan got on bored, I mean board, that's the difference, those ignoramesus poking fun at him wished they had risen above the rest and saved themselves. Instead the people made fun of Noah, as Noah had faith that building this ark in the middle of the desert out of Acacia wood is what God wanted along with gathering up species of animals in pairs.
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