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Old 11-19-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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Yet the Supreme Court applied it to a school district in School District of Abington Township, Pennsylvania v. Schempp. I guess you're wrong, but I'm sure you'll deny deny deny.
The SCOTUS has a history of doing some really strange things and making some really dumb rulings that have little or nothing to do with what the Constitution actually says.
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Luckily, the long-term trend is toward less and less of the kind of nonsense you spew being given credence in our society. Dominionism is dying out, finally.
Why are you babbling on about Dominionism?
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:23 PM
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The SCOTUS has a history of doing some really strange things and making some really dumb rulings that have little or nothing to do with what the Constitution actually says.
And of course you ratify their actions when it serves your narrative and deny their actions when it doesn't. That's okay. Let's leave the law out of it for now. What you support is wrong - morally wrong. It abuses excessive power to the detriment of those more vulnerable in society. You claim free reign to do what you want, and in response good people whose moral character stems from honor and respect for others will oppose you, and like I said, the long-term trend going back 350 years is clear: That opposition will eventually prevail over that which you advocate. 50 years from now, none of this will be an issue, because no one will think that a state institution supporting one religion to the exclusion of all others is even remotely acceptable. We're really only arguing about how many millions more non-Christians will have to be subjected to the Dominionism you advocate, not whether or not that Dominionism you advocate will eventually end.

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Why are you babbling on about Dominionism?
Because it is the name for the perspective you advocate for, even though you deny it.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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And of course you ratify their actions when it serves your narrative and deny their actions when it doesn't. That's okay. Let's leave the law out of it for now. What you support is wrong - morally wrong. It abuses excessive power to the detriment of those more vulnerable in society. You claim free reign to do what you want, and in response good people whose moral character stems from honor and respect for others will oppose you, and like I said, the long-term trend going back 350 years is clear: That opposition will eventually prevail over that which you advocate. 50 years from now, none of this will be an issue, because no one will think that a state institution supporting one religion to the exclusion of all others is even remotely acceptable.

Because it is the name for the perspective you advocate for, even though you deny it.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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A society is able to do both. Only a vested interest in the practice of religious intolerance, lack of respect for other human beings, or lack of confidence in one's ability to behave in a manner consistent with religious freedom would lead someone to believe otherwise.
Respect for other human beings does not equal respect for every religious scam with which someone tries to seduce the gullible. It is precisely out of respect for other human beings that islam, scientology and other religious crazines need to be kept in check. Rabid fanatics like the Westboro Baptist church would have ended behind bars in Germany real fast.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:29 PM
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Respect for other human beings does not equal respect for every religious scam with which someone tries to seduce the gullible.
That's true. So go after the scam without going after the religion. And if you don't know how, then accept your failure in that regard as your own, rather than thinking that careless bumbling is acceptable. There are some white racists. Does that mean to punish all white people? Of course not. Have the integrity to act only against the offense, not that which is incidental to the offense.

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Rabid fanatics like the Westboro Baptist church would have ended behind bars in Germany real fast.
Which would be wrong. They should have as much protection as any of us to practice their beliefs and values within their own bodies, their own homes, their own families and their own worship.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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Which would be wrong. They should have as much protection as any of us to practice their beliefs and values within their own bodies, their own homes, their own families and their own worship.
That's the point. Fanatics, no matter muslim, Christian or any other, usually do not keep their beliefs and values to themselves, but want to impose them on the rest of people. Who deserves more protection: the muslims or the victims of terrorism? The Westboro folks or the families of the soldiers whose funerals they picketed? The fundamentalists who want to keep their children away from proper education, or the children themselves?
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:39 PM
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Let's agree that funerals should be completely protected from picketing anywhere within 5 miles, just for instance. Then Westboro folks would only be subject to imprisonment if they picketed a funeral. After getting arrested a couple of times, even Westboro folks would find some other way to protest, that wouldn't land them in prison for progressively longer and more severe sentences.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Why are you babbling on about Dominionism?
Because you are the city-data poster child for Christian dominionism. Most of your posts shout "dominionism" from the rooftops, especially your posts which say that the government can favor your religion over someone else's.
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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Because you are the city-data poster child for Christian dominionism. Most of your posts shout "dominionism" from the rooftops, especially your posts which say that the government can favor your religion over someone else's.
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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Because you are the city-data poster child for Christian dominionism. Most of your posts shout "dominionism" from the rooftops, especially your posts which say that the government can favor your religion over someone else's.
And yet it's atheists who want the majority to conform to their demands like removing the Bible or forcing a coach to lose his job simply because he wants to pray with the football team.
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