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Old 12-14-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I just read this and I wanted to share it: A Muslim man's account of his prayer in an LDS Church goes viral. When I see things like this, it makes me feel like maybe there is hope for us human beings, after all.

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Old 12-14-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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That is terrific, KP. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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Senator Jeff Flake (R - Arizona) recently attended a prayer service at an Islamic center in Scottsdale, AZ.

Senator Flake, a conservative, rebuked a certain Presidential candidate and told the members of the mosque he stood in solidarity with them. He noted that Muslims serve in the Armed Forces and were among the first responders after the attack in San Bernardino. He also noted he has something in common with Muslims...they are both members of a religion whose members have been persecuted.

Flake is a Mormon.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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These are the type of things we need to hear of more often. They do happen fairly often but seldom get noticed by the media.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:41 PM
 
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Well if the muzzies convert the Mormons, we're truly fooked.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Well if the muzzies convert the Mormons, we're truly fooked.
In Austin we often had Mormons drop in after the Jummah and join us for a late lunch. We always enjoyed their company. Hopefully they equally enjoyed our company. There is no reason people of different forms of worship should not enjoy each other's company.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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In Austin we often had Mormons drop in after the Jummah and join us for a late lunch. We always enjoyed their company. Hopefully they equally enjoyed our company. There is no reason people of different forms of worship should not enjoy each other's company.
I just can't figure some people out. My husband went golfing one day last week with a couple of men from our LDS ward. As they drove past the house where a Muslim family lived, one of the men said something derogatory about Muslims. I think it was something about that we all had to keep a close eye on that family. My husband let him have it. He said, "I'm ashamed of you! You need to stop that right now!" The guy didn't want to let it drop, though, and kept on talking. The other guy, who had originally kind of gone along with the first one, said something entirely unrelated to issues with Muslims. When the first guy said, "What's that got to do with what we're talking about?" the second one answered, "Nothing. I'm trying to change the subject." Eventually the subject was dropped. Later in the day, the first guy said to my husband, "I was just kidding." My husband answered, "Well you don't kid about that. Ever. So don't!"

We have Muslim friends that we socialize with. They are good people and don't deserve to be stereotyped as terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers. I'm getting sick and tired of this nonsense of people being so f'ing paranoid that every Muslim that they meet is probably going to try to kill them, given then right opportunity.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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I just can't figure some people out. My husband went golfing one day last week with a couple of men from our LDS ward. As they drove past the house where a Muslim family lived, one of the men said something derogatory about Muslims. I think it was something about that we all had to keep a close eye on that family. My husband let him have it. He said, "I'm ashamed of you! You need to stop that right now!" The guy didn't want to let it drop, though, and kept on talking. The other guy, who had originally kind of gone along with the first one, said something entirely unrelated to issues with Muslims. When the first guy said, "What's that got to do with what we're talking about?" the second one answered, "Nothing. I'm trying to change the subject." Eventually the subject was dropped. Later in the day, the first guy said to my husband, "I was just kidding." My husband answered, "Well you don't kid about that. Ever. So don't!"

We have Muslim friends that we socialize with. They are good people and don't deserve to be stereotyped as terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers. I'm getting sick and tired of this nonsense of people being so f'ing paranoid that every Muslim that they meet is probably going to try to kill them, given then right opportunity.
This stuff makes me so mad! And it doesn't help that my family is full of folks, religious and otherwise, who have jumped on the "No Muslims in America" bandwagon. Meanwhile, my wife is teaching English classes with upwards of 70% Muslim students (mostly Saudis)! We took some of them to a small town Christmas festival to watch one of the American students ice skate. Afterwards I got so frustrated with myself, and with America in general right now. I spent the whole time hovering behind two young women in hijabs, because I was so worried that someone might try to start something with them. I makes me sad that I think so little of my fellow Americans, and sadder still that I feel the need to err on the side of caution. I do not want the place where I live to be like this.

I really have no answers, it just frustrates me so much to feel so torn about the culture I live in and grew up in.

-NoCapo
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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I really have no answers, it just frustrates me so much to feel so torn about the culture I live in and grew up in.

The answer seems very simple to me - find a place with a culture that you like and move there. That is what our immigrants have done.
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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In Austin we often had Mormons drop in after the Jummah and join us for a late lunch. We always enjoyed their company. Hopefully they equally enjoyed our company. There is no reason people of different forms of worship should not enjoy each other's company.
Way back in the day, I was part of a cross country bicycle tour. One day we were in some back water town USA that has a sizable Jewish population. One of the riders on the tour(there was 12 of us) was Jewish and was thrilled to come across a synagogue. She mentioned she wanted to stop and worship, and would catch up with us later. She was shocked when 9 of us asked if we could go with. She smiled and said that would be nice.

We were all wearing bicycle shorts, t-shirts and neon socks as we entered we synagogue. As the Rabbi greeted us, the others inside turned to see us walk in the door. You'd a thought it was someone's birthday party! The guys were given yarmulkes as we entered. The people (mostly over 40) were all over us, chatting up a storm. Wanting to know where we were from, where we were going and if we were staying for lunch--of course we HAD to stay for lunch.

After almost 4 hours, we were on the road with our panniers packed full of food and a stack of Polaroid photos!

The most amazing thing--NEVER ONCE DID ANYONE ASK WHAT RELIGION WE WERE.

We were their guests and they made sure we were taken care of while we were there.
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