Does God send signs? (disciples, myth, priest, Satan)
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You may take it as an insult if you wish. I was merely pointing that using the second Law to justify creationism proves that you know nothing of the 2nd Law.
I was referring to the Earth. It is not a closed system.
Earth = open system. Yep. Didn't say it wasn't.
Last edited by Mikelee81; 07-13-2011 at 03:13 AM..
The UN has been around for some time now and the only ones "rebuilding" Iraq are you yanks that blew it all up in the first place.
So the AC has to come out of Amerika as that is where this woo end of daze culture emanates from. Problem is, or should I say reality is that countries are no longer taking their queues from the US anymore. No nation has a military as powerful as the US technologically speaking, Russia is up there but more as a deterrent to the US.
Sadly you have been duped in the mind games played out on you by your govt. and your churches.
Sure I have. Who says I affiliate with a "church?" Go back and read my posts. I'm aware of UN's history, and unfortunately their destiny. I do not condone the US military campaign which has murdered thousands of lives to further the elite's agenda. FYI
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Oh I will keep challenging your postulations as they are all based on lies and garbage.
Okay. I guess we'll find out. Remember our little discussion.
Sure I have. Who says I affiliate with a "church?" Go back and read my posts. I'm aware of UN's history, and unfortunately their destiny. I do not condone the US military campaign which has murdered thousands of lives to further the elite's agenda. FYI
Okay. I guess we'll find out. Remember our little discussion.
Lee, I heard this same rhetoric back in the 80's and nothing happened as predicted. That is 30 years ago.
All that has changed is the names of some world leaders and the same accusations.
Your $1 bill and all its masonic evil stuff etc. is still there and still there is no take over. What you do not realize, there can never be a world government except to folk like you who think the rest of the world operates with the same mentality as Americans.
Were anyone state to try and exercise world dominance, it would lead to an extended WW3 and will peter out to nothing as did the other two world wars. The only scenario where the US could exert its will is via a nuclear option but thankfully MAD takes care of that as a deterrent. You are getting your butts kicked in Iraq and Afg and if the US ever tried that in EU or even here in SA, they would meet stronger resistance. Home advantage plays big into the success or failure.
The only folk bent of converting the world currently is the US. No other nation has interests of world domination. The muslim nations do not have the wherewithal to do it and never will either.
If you see that the rich control the plebs, guess what, it has always been like that throughout history.
All the assertions of a cashless society, a OW currency, it is all happened to a large extent. The NWO rhetoric has been around for 30+ years and still the world marches to its own drum.
The sad thing for you folk, is the world suddenly got a whole lot smaller with the internet and you now realize that you all are just part of a global community and not so special as you thought you were - frightening hey?
And I would go so far as to say, no nation has any interest of invading the US as just like the inverse, whoever tries it will get their backsides kicked.
This is why I ALWAYS ask folk like you, how is the US going to do it as really, only the US evangelicals and perhaps a few overseas churches affiliated to the US evangelical meme believe in this end of daze crap.
In the time leading up to the 1st democratic elections in SA, the woos also made apocalyptic predictions of what would happen with a black man in charge. It never transpired and there was and still is peace.
Now that the US has its 1st black president, all the US woos came out in droves, this is a sign, the end of daze etc. For me it is like watching a delayed action replay.
You probably do not know this but your entire doctrine of this futurist apocalyptic nonsense was invented by a RC bishop pretending to be a protestant convert (look it up)
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Lee, I heard this same rhetoric back in the 80's and nothing happened as predicted. That is 30 years ago.
All that has changed is the names of some world leaders and the same accusations.
Your $1 bill and all its masonic evil stuff etc. is still there and still there is no take over. What you do not realize, there can never be a world government except to folk like you who think the rest of the world operates with the same mentality as Americans.
Were anyone state to try and exercise world dominance, it would lead to an extended WW3 and will peter out to nothing as did the other two world wars. The only scenario where the US could exert its will is via a nuclear option but thankfully MAD takes care of that as a deterrent. You are getting your butts kicked in Iraq and Afg and if the US ever tried that in EU or even here in SA, they would meet stronger resistance. Home advantage plays big into the success or failure.
The only folk bent of converting the world currently is the US. No other nation has interests of world domination. The muslim nations do not have the wherewithal to do it and never will either.
If you see that the rich control the plebs, guess what, it has always been like that throughout history.
All the assertions of a cashless society, a OW currency, it is all happened to a large extent. The NWO rhetoric has been around for 30+ years and still the world marches to its own drum.
The sad thing for you folk, is the world suddenly got a whole lot smaller with the internet and you now realize that you all are just part of a global community and not so special as you thought you were - frightening hey?
And I would go so far as to say, no nation has any interest of invading the US as just like the inverse, whoever tries it will get their backsides kicked.
This is why I ALWAYS ask folk like you, how is the US going to do it as really, only the US evangelicals and perhaps a few overseas churches affiliated to the US evangelical meme believe in this end of daze crap.
In the time leading up to the 1st democratic elections in SA, the woos also made apocalyptic predictions of what would happen with a black man in charge. It never transpired and there was and still is peace.
Now that the US has its 1st black president, all the US woos came out in droves, this is a sign, the end of daze etc. For me it is like watching a delayed action replay.
You probably do not know this but your entire doctrine of this futurist apocalyptic nonsense was invented by a RC bishop pretending to be a protestant convert (look it up)
Look up The Twelfth Imam and then tell us again how the Middle East is not, pulling to become the front runner in the New World Order. Even though not said directly, it is understood.
I looked up a few other things too, on South Africa. I'd tell you what I found, (other than environmental changes) but then, you don't believe in the signs. I'd love to be a fly on the wall with you having this same dialogue with the President of Iran. That would be a whopper of a hoot. Especially since he believes if he brings about the Apocalypse through nukes, he will bring in the 12th Imam.
You're right about the conditions for now in South Africa, even with your 37% general unemployment and 60% youth unemployment ratios which have lead to protest in the streets of some communities. (those numbers are not the official numbers your government would have you know, but I'm thinking you know them just the same) However, storm clouds are gathering over the rainbow nation. It has something to do with taxes.
Funny it always all comes down to taxes. (Jesus and the money changers)
Perhaps these examples are not the best to use in this argument, however, what is going on all around the world is having an impact on our society today, that impact was predicted. And I'm not a biblical scholar, but those that are they all seem to read from the book of Daniel.
It doesn't matter where a person lives, what country they are in, they are all slaves to (taxes) their governments who are making decisions based on their interests, not the interests of their people. (SA is no different, I'm thinking they are probably following some of the US model in their new Independent Republic)
However, you don't believe these occurrences are leading to anything worth mentioning as a NWO and the United Nations (which is set up just for this) and they don't reconcile with you to any accounts that were given around 2000-3000 (I've lost count) years ago by the Biblical society as projections (prophecy) for our future, if we didn't change our ways.
I don't believe America is the leader for the NWO. I do not believe America is the Mystery Babylon mentioned by the Biblical society. The signs as I see them do not point to us, they point in the direction of the nation with the most patients. All good things come to those who wait.
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Look up The Twelfth Imam and then tell us again how the Middle East is not, pulling to become the front runner in the New World Order. Even though not said directly, it is understood.
I looked up a few other things too, on South Africa. I'd tell you what I found, (other than environmental changes) but then, you don't believe in the signs. I'd love to be a fly on the wall with you having this same dialogue with the President of Iran. That would be a whopper of a hoot. Especially since he believes if he brings about the Apocalypse through nukes, he will bring in the 12th Imam.
You're right about the conditions for now in South Africa, even with your 37% general unemployment and 60% youth unemployment ratios which have lead to protest in the streets of some communities. (those numbers are not the official numbers your government would have you know, but I'm thinking you know them just the same) However, storm clouds are gathering over the rainbow nation. It has something to do with taxes.
Funny it always all comes down to taxes. (Jesus and the money changers)
Perhaps these examples are not the best to use in this argument, however, what is going on all around the world is having an impact on our society today, that impact was predicted. And I'm not a biblical scholar, but those that are they all seem to read from the book of Daniel.
It doesn't matter where a person lives, what country they are in, they are all slaves to (taxes) their governments who are making decisions based on their interests, not the interests of their people. (SA is no different, I'm thinking they are probably following some of the US model in their new Independent Republic)
However, you don't believe these occurrences are leading to anything worth mentioning as a NWO and the United Nations (which is set up just for this) and they don't reconcile with you to any accounts that were given around 2000-3000 (I've lost count) years ago by the Biblical society as projections (prophecy) for our future, if we didn't change our ways.
I don't believe America is the leader for the NWO. I do not believe America is the Mystery Babylon mentioned by the Biblical society. The signs as I see them do not point to us, they point in the direction of the nation with the most patients. All good things come to those who wait.
A good, thoughtful post. Seems like a rarity on these boards.
They are pulling the moves for their NWO with stellar success. It amazes me people still haven't seen past the curtain of lies propaganda machine to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Not only via the IMF they can create a global financial meltdown, but they are also working on controlling the food supply (increased regulations small farmers, flooding massive amounts of resource-rich farmland in the mid west, etc.) Also add the growing socialistic (make no mistake about it that's where it's going) healthcare systerm. << Thankfully I got out of that mess while I was still whole. RFID FDA approved microchip as "class II implantable devise" in Obama's healthcare plan. It doesn't seem too outlandish that in a socialistic global society, they'd require such device for your "safety" and cost etc. I could go on and on regarding the political, economic landscape and how they look to be just about ready to flip the switch. "Order out of Chaos."
I could also talk about how the various sects are brainwashing their followers preparing them for the final Satanic babylonian harlot system of worshipping the planets (aka Sun god) and "Mother Earth", but I'm not sure if most here are ready for it.
Remember folks their symbol is the Pheonix rising out of the ashes. It is their symbol of a "rebirth." Did you know many religions talk about being "born-again" not just Christians - including your secret society cults? No doubt people will have to be "born-again"/"Initiated" into their system, but what that symbol represents is a rebirth into a "new era." The golden age is what the elitists call it. The Age of Aquarius is what the New agers are calling it. Merging but comparable viewpoints coming into one final idealolgy, and any biblically sound watcher can see this disaster coming miles away thanks to God's sure word of prophecy.
Here is just one example out of many that are preparing.
Horus = Egyptian sun god. If you do the research, you'll find our elitists worship the same sun god. The Zeitgeist has millions of views on youtube. It's job is to reach out to the atheist sect as in the beginning they proclaim the "theres no Religion Higher than Truth" occultic doctrine, and money is the root of all evil campaign, but later venerate sun worship. << (Like that's not a religion) Like many, they claim to be against the elitists (so they have a lot of truth mixed with their lies to get people's heads nodding and build trust), but then they proselytize sun worship and a resource-based society. Zeitgeist now has the "zeitgeist movement" targeting and brainwashing mostly the young undiscerning vulnerable minds that have already been programmed to the evolution lie thanks to our school system. Their claims are easily refuted, and can be turned around to see what the agenda truly is. Keep in mind this is just one example. This new age propaganda goes deep into even penetrating the "Christian" churches sadly. It's a long story in which all info can be obtained, but to do so they have to look.
Sun god and "mother earth" worship is nothing new. It goes back to the first world dictator Nimrod, and has been passed down through civilizations even the infamous Mayans (yes there does seem to be a connection). I do believe planet worship (Sun, moon, Venus, Jupiter, etc) will be the essence of the final world religion. Interestingly, New Agers are preparing their group for "Mother Earth's Cleansing Cycle." They say just be positive throughout it. Make no mistake about it, this will be God's wrath on a rejecting world. It is called the "beginning of sorrows (Matthew 24). The only thing left to do will be repent and turn to God because the cosmic time clock will be nearing full circle.
Be informed people. If not you can't say you weren't warned. Again thanks for the level-headed post.
Last edited by Mikelee81; 07-15-2011 at 12:31 AM..
And I forgot. Yes Islam is awaiting for their Imam. How does Islam and purported but not true "Christians" get deceived into following this final world leader? The new era has to break the old era. What would shake the world's religious belief system?
How else to you gather the world together for peace? How else does the world have the gaul to gather and fight against Christ on the "Day of the Lord" which is referenced over 300 times in the Bible (over both old and new testament). A perceived ET threat? I do believe so.
We will see. Read a Bible. See how much you don't want to be there on that day.
"And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited. And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour." Zechariah 14:11-13 KJV
Last edited by Mikelee81; 07-15-2011 at 12:39 AM..
Hummmm, If so, I would like a 2 "Do not Believe zone" signs beside the road on the edges of my property. I suspect that all too often people see signs because that is what they want to see; the human mind is well known for playing tricks.
Have we ever observed spontaneous Abiogenesis? didn't think so. Evolution is hardly "good science." But they will claim this up until the day they are face to face with the Creator at the Great White Judgment seat of Christ in which every thought and action of their life will be read back to them like a book judging their righteousness. The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23 KJV). Atonement of sins is through the Messiah (John 14:6 KJV) Jesus and him alone because he was the creator born as a man (Colossians 1:15 KJV).
The mercy seat is still available. Accept the free gift while it's still there. The biblical message is not based upon organized "religion." All one needs is a good Bible and do what it says. This is exactly what the organized establishment doesn't want you to hear. So the concept is truth, not fear. Now's the time to grasp this message. Not when there is no hope. Time is merely a notion of God's grace. Tomorrow we'll be dead. Will we have a cloak for our sin in the image of the Christ? Or will we be face to face with a holy righteous Judge with no cloak for our sin? Open your hearts while there's still time.
Most people who do not believe in evolution are ignorant of it's methodology and/or it's meaning. what they have is a suspicion that it does not jive with religion, ergo it must be bad. Not the best example of usage of the human mind.
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Who says I affiliate with a "church?" Go back and read my posts. I'm aware of UN's history, and unfortunately their destiny. I do not condone the US military campaign which has murdered thousands of lives to further the elite's agenda. FYI 
