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Old 12-26-2015, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
What exactly is your definition of persecution?
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
Please explain how you are being 'prosecuted'.

Please explain how you 'can't even go public' with your beliefs.

Of course, both assertions are complete nonsense. You're not being prosecuted. And you're free to go public with your beliefs. You're simply meeting a very modest level of pushback. And you've decided that any level of disagreement at all is prosecution and a lack of freedom. This is indicative nothing but a very robust persecution complex on your part.
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Old 12-26-2015, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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Ah, the poisecution again.

OP, admit it, you WANT to feel persecuted. And you want it because the Bible says that all true Christians will be, thus if you are not persecuted, you are not a real Christian. Been there, done that. But thanks to the modern secular freedoms you will not find yourself thrown to the lions for your obnoxious meddling with other people's souls.

Actually, OP, I have an idea for you. You can go to the Middle East and do your preaching there. You may just find what you desire. Just be warned: if you are scared now, you will be terrified to death later.
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Old 12-26-2015, 04:37 AM
 
Location: SC
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Something about "Freedom of Religion".... or something like that.

I don't want to be muslim either.

My life.

My choice.
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Old 12-26-2015, 05:40 AM
 
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
Your subject title needs a bit of work, unless you intended to post it in the Christian part of the forum. Muslims are just as annoying when they proselytize, as Christians are. I lived in NYC, and I've had members of both clubs try to do their number on me. Two peas out of the same pod, trust me.

As for "persecution," I think the major persecution that a proselytizing Christian encounters is, "I'm not interested, thank you." On a bad day it might run to "Stuff that crap, honey!" In either case...calling it persecution is a stretch.
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Old 12-26-2015, 05:45 AM
 
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
The purpose of the negative reactions is to get you to ask questions. Then you try to get different points-of-views. Finally, you get an answer, which hopefully will lead to a solution that works for you.

Just keep in mind that negative reactions don't tell you what to do, just what not to do.
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Old 12-26-2015, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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You aren't being persecuted. You are a member of the countries dominant religion, there are 450,000 churches in the USA, when in comparison there are only 14,000 Mcdonalds restaurants, and those things are everywhere. There are christian schools, universities, radio and TV stations.

You are simply having your sales pitch refused, perhaps your beliefs are mocked by some for being irrational. That isn't persecution by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old 12-26-2015, 07:29 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Christians complaining about being persecuted when Dominionism in the United States is criticized is identical in almost every way to Caucasians complaining about being "persecuted" when White Privilege in the United States is criticized, and is identical in almost every way to rich people complaining about being "persecuted" when their exercise of unjust economic power is criticized.

As those with excessive power, it is reprehensible to actually complain when the level of injustice that benefits you is reduced.
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Old 12-26-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.

How about offering something practical to the person having a hard time. Spend some time with them. Offer practical solutions. Pick up the phone, and keep up with them to see they are okay in the coming weeks. Keep in touch with them.

If you are simply telling them about God, then you are really not offering anything but lip service. God does not like lip service.
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Old 12-26-2015, 08:29 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Why aren't Christians allowed to tell people about the greatness of God without being persecuted?

Claiming that only you have the true message and being corrected is hardly being persecuted. You own actions tell you that you are persecuted while in fact you are only being disputed. Grow up.
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