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Old 12-25-2015, 11:25 PM
 
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:44 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
Folks get upset because they don't want to hear about what you think they should believe.

Think about it.

Accept it.
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
Have you read the Old Testament in it's entirety? Atheists like myself don't want to worship, pray to or respect a psychopath like the God of the Bible. All this "God is all good" is a load of crap. Besides that God doesn't even exist and even if Bible God existed I wouldn't respect or worship it. I have too much self-respect for myself to do that.
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:17 AM
 
Location: USA
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.

You try to convince people that thousands of years ago a corpse came back to life and subsequently flew away. They point out to you in detail how incredibly fulla-bulla that story is, and may well even exhibit a familiarity with the story superior to your own. And THAT"S what you call "being persecuted?" How would YOU go about telling someone that's fulla-bulla, that they are fulla-bulla?
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:50 AM
 
Location: S.W. British Columbia
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.... <snip> .... This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
That's good then. You should be scared. That's the whole point, that you should not be trying to convince unwilling people about any gods or religions, especially not people who get upset with you. If you have to convince somebody about whatever god/religion you're trying to sell to them then it means they aren't initially ready or interested to hear about it. Convincing someone means you are trying to persuade or coerce somebody, trying to impose and exert your will power over them, and that is wrong. It's a guaranteed way to make many people reject your sales pitch more strongly and permanently than it would have been if you had approached them with friendly indifference. When somebody is ready to know about whatever you're wanting to sell to them you won't have to convince them of anything or use your powers of persuasion. It isn't necessary.

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Old 12-26-2015, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 N, 🌄W
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This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
Be scared, it's not your place to convince anyone of anything with respect to religion.
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Old 12-26-2015, 02:23 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
Your good God hypothesis just isn't very convincing to someone like me who had to watch my beautiful, innocent young son growing up miserable, entering adulthood miserable, suffering mental pain and bitter disappointment and finally taking his life because he couldn't bear his pain any longer.

No amount of believing, praying, pleading, begging etc invoked just the slightest hint of sympathy, let alone help. I have lived two years of hell now. If someone were to come telling me how good God was I recon I could be forgiven for thumping them! Well, telling them were to go and what to do with themselves! (Using words you won't find in the bible).

Does that answer your question?

My appologies if it sounds like I am expressing some inner rage. It's not directed at you, just at the thought that there was some sort of "good God" who would sit back and watch while some six million if his chosen people were brutally murdered and my own son suffered!

But the reality is that your "good God" does not actually exist.

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Old 12-26-2015, 02:56 AM
 
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
I'm not an atheist, but I'm not a Christian, either. You should be able to spread your belief if you sincerely believe in your God. However,

1/ When I say "no, thanks. I'm not interested", I expect you to respect my wish and leave me alone.
2/ Even if I agree to listen to your offer, in my mind, I despise people like you very much. Christians and Muslims just want to take advantage of people's vulnerable circumstances to preach. It's not illegal, but it's insidious.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Glasgow, UK
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You're welcome to tell me how great your imaginary God is (I won't sue you for saying something to me that I've no interest in hearing), but then I will interpret that as an invitation to ridicule those delusions.

Go on and tell me about your 'relationship' with God, because I could do with a good laugh.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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I just don't understand why we cannot tell people about how good God is and how he can help people who have a relationship with him without people saying we are cramming our beliefs down their throat. Christians just want to help. I think some go overboard but if a person has a rough time in their life I try to tell them to pray and trust God. Nowadays, you can't even go public with your beliefs yet it is ok for people to say that they don't believe in God. This is why I am scared to try to convince people to come to God. Folks get so upset.
What I always find surprising about these posts is that the OP never seems to acknowledge that if, say, a Muslim went to HIM to try to convince HIM that Islam is "the way," the OP would be offended and appalled. But somehow the OP's god is "the one" that we all need to hear about. Um, OP, those who believe in OTHER religions believe in THEIRS as much as you apparently believe in yours.

OP, what if I said to you, "You must believe in the god Mabel* in order to be saved. If you do not accept the god Mabel as your lord and savior, you will be damned for all eternity." You would look at me as if I were crazy, right? Well ...

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*Mabel is my much-loved cat who died back in 2007. She was kinda like a god to me.
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