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There once was a man named Job, who thought the same thing. Here's what he said after meeting God.
Job 40
1-2 God then confronted Job directly: “Now what do you have to say for yourself? Are you going to haul me, the Mighty One, into court and press charges?” 3-5 Job answered: “I’m speechless, in awe—words fail me. I should never have opened my mouth! I’ve talked too much, way too much. I’m ready to shut up and listen.”
There once was a man named Boj, who experienced and said the complete opposite. A story is not an argument unless the reasons and logic are clearly delineated... "Do not question, I am beyond reproach and you Fear Me" can be the exact commandment from an Evil Demon.
Might Makes Right is never true, Might only makes Might, and Right is the only thing that is Right.
With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility, but Power Corrupts. Still, one would think that with Absolute Power would come Absolute Responsibility, but it is said Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely, so who knows.
In this case, it's God, our creator. With ISIS, it's bomb-carrying humans. Big difference. Of course, you knew that. But you like being a pita.
They believe themselves to be the beasts of burden, followers of commandment, Allah's bodies/servants on Earth.
Might Makes Right ideas are still the same in both the Muslim and Christian extremist and non-extremist camps.
Jesus said people have an innate spiritual need. However that doesn't mean people satisfy their spiritual need in a way that pleases God. Rather many people base their spirituality on ideas of humans rather than God. Therefore its not surprising that many religions exist.
This popped up on my Twitter feed today. That's a good question.
For an omnipotent Being God is majestically inept at getting his message out accurately, leaving us with no clear idea of which version of Him we are supposed to be worshiping. Hopefully He will cut each of us some slack when the time comes. Or maybe that was His plan from the beginning. It's "Let's Make a Deal," and you have to pick the right door based on your best hunch, or it's your a**.
If God wanted to force everyone to do it the way HE wanted to then why did God create the world? Why he created life and death?
God would have just created humans and sent them straight to heaven. What's the point of our life on this planet then?
There is only ONE God, so there is only one religion. And that religion is the belief that there is only ONE God.
How is this complicated?
It's a human's choice at the end, if he wants to use his own intelligence to search the purpose of his life, and figure out what his creator recommends him to do with life?
On the other hand, if God created humans and then he had sent some straight to heaven, and chuck some in hell, then those being sent to hell would have asked God as to why are they being thrown in hell?
But now, they won't be able to question because their actions and their choices that were based on free will, would have earned them a spot in hell.
It's a choice of humans, whether they strive to take the right or the left path?
~ men who think, he doesn't exist, are his greatest accomplishments.
In which case men who are entirely and completely incapable of substantiating the claim there is a god in even the smallest way, must be his greatest tools.
But sure it is a great propaganda move you make, to deflect from the fact you have no substantiation there is a god or a devil, by feeding it into a narrative that non-belief in those unsubstantiated claims feeds into the agenda of some dark evil.
Religions aren't about God. Religions are all about men playing at God.
I will actually agree with you on this one. That couldn't be more evident than in the Christianity forum on this board. People completely freak out if we dare to suggest that we actually use what God has said to determine what a Christian is...because someone might get offended. Sadly, for them, it's not about what God said...but about what people think.
If God wanted to force everyone to do it the way HE wanted to then why did God create the world? Why he created life and death?
The point is not that god would force everyone to do it the way HE wants. He's already attempting that, by your beliefs. The point is that if a sufficiently potent god existed and felt it important that we all be on the same page, we'd all be on the same page. We're not, so such a god doesn't exist. No forcing is necessary, simply information and a correct understanding of it.
What actually is going on is that folks like you claim to correctly understand divine revelation and insist that we accept it on your say-so. And of the literally millions of truth-claims abroad in the world about the allegedly One True God, most disagree with one another.
Which is precisely what we would expect if people were getting their notions of god and morality from in between their own ears, based on their own upbringing and experiences and expectations and perceptions.
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God would have just created humans and sent them straight to heaven. What's the point of our life on this planet then?
That's your problem to answer, if you posit a heaven as the solution to problems in this life. Why don't you go straight to heaven? It is not that hard to do. But you do not ... because you have the same self-preservation instincts as everyone else, you have the same intuition that this life, for all its warts and uncertainties, is valuable after all. And you know at some level that no asserted afterlife has ever been adequately substantiated.
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There is only ONE God, so there is only one religion. And that religion is the belief that there is only ONE God.
How is this complicated?
But WHICH god who is the only ONE? There are conflicting claims about that. That's how it's complicated.
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It's a human's choice at the end, if he wants to use his own intelligence to search the purpose of his life, and figure out what his creator recommends him to do with life?
On the other hand, if God created humans and then he had sent some straight to heaven, and chuck some in hell, then those being sent to hell would have asked God as to why are they being thrown in hell?
But now, they won't be able to question because their actions and their choices that were based on free will, would have earned them a spot in hell.
It's a choice of humans, whether they strive to take the right or the left path?
If god sent humans directly to heaven (although why we are discussing that is beyond me, as it was never anything anyone in this discussion ever had on the table) they would not have the opportunity to sin so there would be no need of hell.
That is the whole problem with the Abrahamic deity, he could have created humans as he wished them to be instead of insufficient and unworthy and shameful. It would have completely eliminated this baroque system of sin, guilt, and expiation by means of blood sacrifice. And the very notion that something with the supposed gravitas of sin would somehow be magically removed with some sprinkled goat's blood. And all the other silly notions you would have us believe.
And sure, if his sadistic nature demands that humans live and suffer and struggle and ultimately die as some sort of preamble to eternal life, all the while feeling unworthy and filthy, that's kind of god's personal problem. He didn't have to bother to create us in the first place, if all that would accomplish is to get his holy knickers in a twist.
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