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Agnostics declare there may be a god, they just don't know who or what. Atheists claim there is no God.
The Bible actually states that there is no such thing as an atheist. Everyone KNOWS that there is SOMETHING that created it all...they just suppress the belief because they prefer to live their own lives of sin.
If you believe that, it helps me understand your disdain for non-believers.
I am taking a stand against this strawman you're putting forward.
What are you even saying? "belief is as belief does"? Thanks Gump.
No, just no. As mordant has put forth, rather eloquently, this is not what atheism means and this is not what we're arguing for.
I guess you didn't take the time to look up agnosticism, did you? I quoted it before, but I'll quote it again for convenience:
Oxford:
Atheism and Agnosticism differ in that agnosticism makes a truth claim and atheism does not. Agnosticism says "No one could know if there's a God", atheism says "I have no reason to believe there's a God(s), but I don't know there's not a God(s)."
I don't believe that gods don't exist, I simply don't believe that gods do exist. Yes, there's a significant difference that is going right over your head.
You have trouble with reading comprehension.
Agnosticism is not necessarily a truth claim.
"Nothing is known OR can be known", is not the same as, "Nothing is known NOR can be known".
It can be that "it is not known at this time"...it doesn't have to be the position that "it is impossible to ever know".
Atheism is the claim...that God(s) don't exist.
You have trouble with reading comprehension.
Agnosticism is not necessarily a truth claim.
"Nothing is known OR can be known", is not the same as, "Nothing is known NOR can be known".
It can be that "it is not known at this time"...it doesn't have to be the position that "it is impossible to ever know".
Atheism is the claim...that God(s) don't exist.
You have trouble with reading comprehension.
"Nothing is known OR can be known," is not the same as "Nothing is known OR nothing can be known"
It is in fact the claim that nothing is known AND nothing can be known.
Atheism is the lack of belief (disbelief) in a God and NOT a belief that there is no God.
Again I'll make the statement, if we do not believe the form of atheism that you're putting forward, then you are attacking a strawman and since I've made this clear to you, you are KNOWINGLY holding an intellectually dishonest position.
If you believe that, it helps me understand your disdain for non-believers.
Why would you believe that I hate non-believers.
I have a disdain for the attitude of the person that thinks he's the smartest one in the room and that arrogantly proclaims that there is no God. But I don't hate anyone.
You have trouble with reading comprehension.
"Nothing is known OR can be known," is not the same as "Nothing is known OR nothing can be known"
It is in fact the claim that nothing is known AND nothing can be known.
Atheism is the lack of belief (disbelief) in a God and NOT a belief that there is no God.
Again I'll make the statement, if we do not believe the form of atheism that you're putting forward, then you are attacking a strawman and since I've made this clear to you, you are KNOWINGLY holding an intellectually dishonest position.
"OR" gives you the choice of any presented..."AND" does not give you that choice.
It is that simple.
"Nothing is known OR can be known"...allows for the choice between the two. It doesn't demand both at once.
Atheism is not only the Belief that there is no God...it is the DOCTRINE that there is no God.
So says one of the most highly regarded entities to provide the meaning of words.
Your clam otherwise does not change that.
"Mere Disbelief" is not on interweb forums putting up jillions of posts (some for years) to promote the viewpoint, and slam differing viewpoints.
Belief is, as Belief says and does.
Would you say the Bayesian probability that God exists is 50/50?
I would so no. The probability is much closer to zero.
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