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Thank you. That was not in the original story posted. But the OP did make an assumption it was a Christian and was besmirching all Christians for it.
Do you believe that all Christians would do as this man did?
No one is saying all Christians would, Viz. It does show that people will use their religion as an excuse for whatever agenda they feel like using it for though.
Thank you. That was not in the original story posted. But the OP did make an assumption it was a Christian and was besmirching all Christians for it.
Do you believe that all Christians would do as this man did?
Actually the OP asked scumbag or Christian, so if one answered scumbag they would not be besmirching any Christian. At least that was my take on it and I did state that he was a scumbag. He is also a Christian, a tow truck driver, a social conservative and a male. But his actions were because he is a scumbag.
I do not understand why it would be difficult for a Christian to state that the guy may be a Christian but he is simply acting like a scumbag and just happens to be a scumbag. It he was an atheists and acted like this I would have had the same response, he is an atheist but what he did was because he is a scumbag.
I assumed that he was a Christian in the original story as he said Lord, he is American and he is a white southern so that would be the most reasonable position. If he had said Allah or the story happened in Israel I would have made different assumptions.
Actually the OP asked scumbag or Christian, so if one answered scumbag they would not be besmirching any Christian. At least that was my take on it and I did state that he was a scumbag. He is also a Christian, a tow truck driver, a social conservative and a male. But his actions were because he is a scumbag.
Have you looked at the title of the thread? It clearly states "Christian Tow Truck Driver..."
He assumed it was. Despite the article not mentioning his religion.
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I do not understand why it would be difficult for a Christian to state that the guy may be a Christian but he is simply acting like a scumbag and just happens to be a scumbag. It he was an atheists and acted like this I would have had the same response, he is an atheist but what he did was because he is a scumbag.
I honestly don't know what took place that he apparently felt disrespected by the woman. I don't believe I'd have left her there myself, but Christians are normal people, just like everyone else. Sometimes we let things get to us. In any event, he said he did not know that she was disabled. He just did not want to do business with her because he worried about payment.
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I assumed that he was a Christian in the original story as he said Lord, he is American and he is a white southern so that would be the most reasonable position. If he had said Allah or the story happened in Israel I would have made different assumptions.
Again...we don't really know what his faith is about, do we?
Claiming Christian does not prohibit one from being and doing insidious things. Being Christian one would likely have a sense of compassion rather than contemptuous cold hearted motivations.
As for Trump:
Trump does nothing but make a "Put Down Statement" about someone or something, and REPEATS IT THREE TIMES and he knows -people become suckers by the time he's repeated it 3 times. If a reporter ask him something he will no answer and interject his put down statement and repeat it and follow it up with a different put down about something else.
He simply brings out the clarity of negativity within the Right wingers, everyone knows conservative is a code word for "predominantly white". They have poor and uneducated whites in such a hoodwinked circle of conquest, until they can say and do anything and wrap it in the word conservative and the poor and uneducated whites eat it up 100%.
They have been telling the right wingers so long that everything is so bad, yet, in 7.5 years this economy was brought back from the brink of financial turmoil, people have medical care that would not have had it before, and no one has seen their tax go up one penny. but listen to Republican they twist it until they get people dumbfounded to seeing reality. Not once have the Republican stayed on any topic about the wealthy making 100's of millions and 10's of billions, but none of these major companies have cared to give people raises. Under any and every plan republicans have its designed to give the wealthy more tax breaks and claim it is good for the economy. (that has never worked for the people). Republican want to cut and cancel programs, to justify more tax breaks to the wealthy, they will do nothing to prosecute those who hide billions offshore. Trump does not like poor whites and minorities, and its no secret, except the poor whites can't fathom themselves among those whom he detest.
He made a point to do a Glenn Beck replay, and create fodder for other right leaning talk show host, and drew in a mass of people who can't think through a three line statement without getting mind blocked.
This is the same clown who kept pushing the Birther crap, because he knew it played to the right wing racist.
It's likely more and more vile to come forth from people being led by the money worshiping Trump program. That's the same mentality that has brought havoc to everything. One can't count the people who've lost money behind the Trump games over the decades. He sets things up to cash out and leave people hanging, and by his tone he is not going to raise the pay of any of his employees and anyone in rank and file likely does not have medical coverage and do not earn enough to buy any. It's likely if his employees were polled, we'd likely find out many of them require some form of public assistance to make ends meet.
Again, it is ASSuMED he cannot be christian because he did something really stupid.
On another thread I raised this very question and the majority seem to agree that just because you are a christian, does not mean you will not do STUPID stuff.
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Guy said he was so proud , which means he was self-righteous, as God resist the proud , and God would never tell a proud man to be selfish ..... See being proud is idolatry to God
But.. But.. he HEARD Gawd speak to him. Do you doubt that?
Again, it is ASSuMED he cannot be christian because he did something really stupid.
On another thread I raised this very question and the majority seem to agree that just because you are a christian, does not mean you will not do STUPID stuff.
Actually...it is ASSUMED it was stupid. We really don't KNOW what took place. We just know a tow truck driver decided he didn't want to do business with someone based on their political stance, and the fact that he had previously been hurt financially by others of the same political stance. That's it. There was NO indication he knew she was disabled, or that he left her on a deserted road at midnight or anything like that. He simply did not want to do business with someone.
YOU and others have assumed that his Christian faith motivated him to abandon some poor disabled woman on the side of the road and that he apparently had malevolent intentions.
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Seriously you post anything you can in your attempts to discredit Christ.
From the article you posted..
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Shupe , who supports presumptive Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, said his decision on the side of the interstate this week was more about business than politics.
He believes Bernie Sanders supporters are socialists, and says he's had problems with two customers over the last six months who supported Bernie Sanders. He said they caused him problems over paying their bills.
"I've had some horrible experiences in the last six months with towing cars for this mindset individuals, in that I don't get paid. They want to argue about a $50 tow bill, and it turns into just a drama and a fuss. And I said, you know, I'm not going to associate with them, and I'm not going to do any business with them," Shupe said.
"I'm really not interested in doing business with that clientele," he said of Sanders supporters."
So the issue ultimately is BUSINESS not even politics or the Lord.
Just because some guy claims he was led by the Lord to do this does in no way discredit the existence and reality of God.
All it does is confirm there are misguided individuals of all religious affirmations in life. None of this is new information.
You convientenly forgot he said this, "I think the Lord came to me, and he just said get in the truck and leave,..."
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Regarding the bold in your long winded rebuttal, no what it does is ATTEMPTS to discredit the moral claim of Christianity.
Just because a person does things in the name of the Lord does not mean that the Lord condones the action. We are all imperfect people Christians included. True Christians only know our condition and need for Christ.
There's not a lack of people in life doing things in the name of their ideology that is misguided. It doesn't mean the ideology is incorrect.
So those Muslims who fly planes into buildings, their ideology is correct, just their actions "misguided"?
Uh huh.
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