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If you admit that agreeing that a pantheistic God exists is pointless, then that is what the OP is getting at . And all these 1000 post threads with pantheists screaming that agnostics MUST agree that there is a God, and agnostics MUST admit that atheism has been rendered null and void are meaningless, for as we see even admitting to such changes nothing .
As to your observations, you have never provided a shred of proof for such . All you have ever said in every thread in response to this is " it makes sense to believe space is alive", which has absolutely nothing to do with establishing God exists . The Earth is alive via the fact of living things on it , but the Earth is not God either by virtue of being alive . The two are not synonymous .
If you admit that agreeing that a pantheistic God exists is pointless, then that is what the OP is getting at . And all these 1000 post threads with pantheists screaming that agnostics MUST agree that there is a God, and agnostics MUST admit that atheism has been rendered null and void are meaningless, for as we see even admitting to such changes nothing .
As to your observations, you have never provided a shred of proof for such . All you have ever said in every thread in response to this is " it makes sense to believe space is alive", which has absolutely nothing to do with establishing God exists . The Earth is alive via the fact of living things on it , but the Earth is not God either by virtue of being alive . The two are not synonymous .
it's not pointless to all people. Why would you push that belief off on others?
Like I told you, for some sports is meaningless. For others having a rock garden is meaningless. For me a "loving" universe is meaningless. But I understand that's just me. My brother says chemistry and physics is meaningless to him in his life. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. But he is smarter than you in that he understands that what he knows isn't all there is to know on a subject. He doesn't pretend that his personal opinion should be pushed as the only "logical" solution.
The observations I used fit observations perfectly. What is going on around us is as random as material through a cell. That is why you need to approach this thing from "what does it mean to us (you)." angle, because yours does not match as well. So You need emotional support from others to head nod ya into a fake reality.
For me, knowing more about the space around me is cool. I don't have a stake in god or no god like you so I have freedom to just learn. What I learnt is that some people try and force personal opinions on others like its more real. I have learned that is independent of belief in god or no god.
I'm not pushing anything, nor do you have the slightest clue how intelligent I am relative to anyone , including your brother . That is where you are mistaken. If you would actually bother to read, you would discover that some pantheists are pushing pantheism and insisting that agnostics MUST agree that their God exists and atheism is null and void . I know of no atheist who would give a darn about someone being pantheist . I certainly don't . And I haven't seen a single atheist here insist that a pantheist give up their pantheism . The issue here is that some pantheists can't handle others not accepting their version of God .
And if you think any atheist or agnostic needs emotional support from others then you are clueless. Atheists are the few with the courage to go through life without depending on some sort of religious emotional support from their community .
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I'm not pushing anything, nor do you have the slightest clue how intelligent I am relative to anyone , including your brother . That is where you are mistaken. If you would actually bother to read, you would discover that some pantheists are pushing pantheism and insisting that agnostics MUST agree that their God exists and atheism is null and void . I know of no atheist who would give a darn about someone being pantheist . I certainly don't . And I haven't seen a single atheist here insist that a pantheist give up their pantheism . The issue here is that some pantheists can't handle others not accepting their version of God .
And if you think any atheist or agnostic needs emotional support from others then you are clueless. Atheists are the few with the courage to go through life without depending on some sort of religious emotional support from their community .
There have been hundreds of threads, and tens of thousands of posts by Atheists to note that the "evidence" for that which validates Evolution, proves that Creationism lacks merit and is made null and void by way of that "proof".
To nowhere near the same magnitude, there are posts by Pantheists to note that the "evidence" for that which validates GOD (something that comports definitively, objectively exists), proves that Atheism lacks merit and is made null and void by way of that "proof".
Evolution and Pantheism...both very well evidenced. Well, Pantheism a bit more than Evolution...but both are logical and reasonable to put great belief in their validity.
The proof of evolution is scientific observation . The " proof" of pantheism is semantical wordplay .
Not quite the same caliber of proof .
Citing known, expert definitions is not considered to be "semantic wordplay"...except to those desperate and grasping at whatever straw they can find.
If you dispute the known, expert definition of "G-O-D"...then rebut it with substantive proof that it isn't valid.
If you can't...I submit: It stands. All of it.
So, let's see whatcha got.
The proof of the existence of GOD (ALL/EVERYTHING) is scientific observation.
With proof that is superior to that which validates Evolution.
Quite obviously your one dimensional argument is incapable of moving past regurgitating the same old tired semantics crap of the past and dealing with the topic of this thread .
With yet another failure on your part you can be dismissed as having anything substantive to post about this topic .
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