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Old 06-21-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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If you refuse to explain just what you meant in a way that reconciles the statements, everyone will know that you were caught out contradicting yourself. Nobody minds if you do a rethink and mental repositioning, but to refuse to answer reflects no credit on you or the Faith you claim to believe. That's the burden you take on when you post in a public forum.
I explained myself several times. I'm good with whatever you think about my responses (or lack thereof).
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Old 06-21-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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So I misunderstood you when you said we have to accept our salvation by this profession or we are not saved???? I am not being argumentative, jimmie. I am really trying to understand how you reconcile these conflicting and contradictory things in your head.
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Well, jimmie???
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I explained my position several times. I will not follow you any further down the rabbit hole. Make of that what you will.
I simply asked if you believe the bold is true and if so why is that NOT us saving ourselves instead of Jesus? There is no rabbit hole, just confusion about what you actually believe.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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I used to wonder about this as a child.


If I never believe in my heart of hearts that XYZ religion is the true way, but I live my life strictly according to its precepts, am I saved? Will God fault me for never developing faith, if I did every single thing they told me to do, and did not do the things they said were bad?


In other words, if it turns out that they were right, is the insurance policy approach even possible?
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: USA
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I used to wonder about this as a child.


If I never believe in my heart of hearts that XYZ religion is the true way, but I live my life strictly according to its precepts, am I saved? Will God fault me for never developing faith, if I did every single thing they told me to do, and did not do the things they said were bad?


In other words, if it turns out that they were right, is the insurance policy approach even possible?
The fact that people still think God requires insurance policies is disheartening.
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I used to wonder about this as a child.


If I never believe in my heart of hearts that XYZ religion is the true way, but I live my life strictly according to its precepts, am I saved? Will God fault me for never developing faith, if I did every single thing they told me to do, and did not do the things they said were bad?


In other words, if it turns out that they were right, is the insurance policy approach even possible?
I assumed they were telling the truth about having the truth. I used to wonder what the elite had that I didn't. I couldn't see how I was any different from my classmates or my unbelieving family. I sat outside the classroom while they worldly children celebrated Christmas but I really wanted to be inside with them. I figured that alone was enough to mean I wasn't paradise material.

Turns out it wasn't me there was something wrong with.
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