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No , I have been married to my first and only wife since the early 80's , so thankfully I've missed out on computerized dating . Nonetheless, the site targeted heterosexuals . Somehow appealing TO certain types of people equates discriminating AGAINST in the minds of those eager to be offended . Unless it is turned around, and the business appealing to a certain group are of the approved type, such as the gay sites that are allowed to limit their business to gays .
And it does change the service . The site was set up as men desiring women and women desiring men . They didn't have the men desiring men option. And if they dont want to develop a service to sell to gays, , they shouldn't have to . They should be allowed to determine their product line free from whining by crybabies who want some thing other than what they sell . If you want a Honda , go to a Honda dealer and buy one . Don't set in the parking lot of the Toyota dealership and whine and cry about how they don't sell Hondas . You want a gay dating service , go TO a gay dating service and use their product .
But that's just too simple and sensible . Better to make a scene and make everyone cater to OUR needs, because we now CAN make them do just that .
The "man seeking a man option" would be nothing more than a choice in a drop down menu. Christian Mingle provides the exact same service to customers who choose "man seeking a woman" in their profile as it does to customers who choose "woman seeking a man" in their profile. What basis do you have for your claim that offering other choices in a drop down menu would require additional services which are currently not provided?
I know there are gay Christians . One of my best friends is one. He moved from Baptist to Piskie , for obvious reasons . When I was studying among Eastern Orthodox, it was acknowledged that there were gay priests . It wasn't an issue as long as they were celibate ,as unmarried priests are expected to be anyway . But let's face it, what percentage of Christians in America do they comprise ? Not much by any standard . And most of Christendom considers homosexuality a sin, whether it is or isn't .
And right there is the reason that gay Christians might like to use a site like Christian Mingle. Not to whine or cry, but to meet other gay Christians.
Heaven forbid a Christian website want to keep their membership exclusive to Bible believing Christians. I suppose you think churches should allow gay members as well, right?
The ChristianMingle site is corrupt (in a reflection of the cronyism/money religion itself) and they want government (public tax) money for themselves. Otherwise they could discriminate at will. Like Oral Roberts "University" does, paying proper taxes without tax breaks and government funds.
The point you are missing is that this is a business, and the laws are pretty clear about what a business can and cannot do when it comes to discrimination. I suspect that the company, and its lawyers, explored any number of ways of getting around the judgement, including further appeals. The law is the law, and applies to everyone, and it really doesn't matter what you or I feel about it. I'm sure most of us disagree with many judgments that come down from the bench, but that doesn't change that those judgments apply to us.
The "judgements" are probably just about whether ChristianMingle (grotesque in-breeding Ivory Tower) gets government teat or not. CM chose money. Oral Roberts is a "business" and they discriminate at full force (by not taking government funds, breaks, etc).
That's a good point. Whether Churches or religious organisations should be allowed to opt out of the law on religious grounds has been a knotty one. It seems now that the situation is clarified. The Law says no discrimination and religious beliefs in NOT an excuse.
That said, compromises can be offered. if possible. A stewardess can be excused serving booze if another one can do the job. If the plane is too small , then she must find another job.
A registrar must issue marriage licenses to SS couple. A compromise means others can do it while she sits in her office reading the Bible at public expense.
A dating site cannot discriminate, but the compromise there is presumably that those who refuse to handle gay dating can be replaced by those who will. If they haven't any, then they had better hire some, damn' quick.
The individual employees get the freedom to be biggots (if company allows) or follow random ritual rules, while the company receiving the government help must comply with all discrimination laws related to government money.
The "man seeking a man option" would be nothing more than a choice in a drop down menu. Christian Mingle provides the exact same service to customers who choose "man seeking a woman" in their profile as it does to customers who choose "woman seeking a man" in their profile. What basis do you have for your claim that offering other choices in a drop down menu would require additional services which are currently not provided?
Your opinion of how easy or hard it would be is irrelevant . It is not your place , and should not be the governments place in a free country , to dictate to a private business what products it has to sell . They chose not to offer gay dating . That should settle it, just like black dating sites are free to cater to blacks and gay dating sites are free to cater to gays .
Please explain how the service being provided is different based on whether the paying customer of Christian Mingle is straight or gay.
The site doesn't care whether a customer is straight or gay . That's the point, and you defeat your own argument here. The site merely sells a service , but the service it sells isn't one that gays want . So now we have made NOT selling a product a minority wants into discrimination . That's idiotic .
Let's return to the strip club question most everyone ignores . Give me an answer on this . Should gays be able to go to a strip club and demand the place offer male strippers on equal stage time as women strippers? Yes or no? Let's not beat around the bush and avoid the difficult questions here . Which is it ? Currently a product gay men might want is not offered at these places except on special occasions like ladies night , which is NOT intended to draw in gays but heterosexual women . Discrimination or not ?
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And right there is the reason that gay Christians might like to use a site like Christian Mingle. Not to whine or cry, but to meet other gay Christians.
This is no doubt true, but is irrelevant to the issue . The wants and desires of any customer should not have any legal bearing on what products a business has to sell . If there is a niche not covered , then start your own site FOR gay Christians . That used to be the way it worked . Now , it seems , we sue and force businesses to cater to us to make our lives more convenient .
This is no doubt true, but is irrelevant to the issue . The wants and desires of any customer should not have any legal bearing on what products a business has to sell . If there is a niche not covered , then start your own site FOR gay Christians . That used to be the way it worked . Now , it seems , we sue and force businesses to cater to us to make our lives more convenient .
It's Christian Mingle.
Seems like the ONLY qualification you need to meet is to be christian.
Let's return to the strip club question most everyone ignores . Give me an answer on this . Should gays be able to go to a strip club and demand the place offer male strippers on equal stage time as women strippers? ?
Nobody is answering your question because it is a terrible analogy that makes no sense.
Here's a better one.
Christian Mingle has pull-down options for race.
Oh, but they don't include black people. Just white or hispanic.
So no black people can use the CM?
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